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pm from Yatey,

Thank you for your information and i think Cisse was a bigamist i know she married cyril Halfpenny bigamistly, she had to go to court over it but was not charged if i was confused befor i am even more confused now how to start i have answerd Mary as she got Kydaston name right i can remember the name. once again thak you if you come across anything else i would be most gratefull.

all the best Yatey

Thankyou for your message Yatey.
I am pleased you found your way back!! :-)

Hi thank you for telling me what to do, as i am new to it even though i have been doing my own tree for years till i started my ex husbands what a mix up.

THank You Yatey

With two names as unusual as Kynaston and Whalley, it has to be more than just a coincidence!

If it was me I'd be buying a couple of certs to confirm.

Good 1911 find Mary.
Catherine

That looks like a half sister for Cissie.

Connie Louisa Jane born 16/3/1913 christened 23/4/1913 in SkeGby by William Henry and Cissie.

Married in chesterfield 1934 to Walter Rushby.
Connie died June 1981.Looks like 2 boys and 4 girls born to this marriage.

Maryb

Just to put oil on the fire, what about this????:-

Births Jun 1913
Kynaston Connie L J (mmn. Whalley) Mansfield 7b 247

Cecilia Kynaston
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1952
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 3c
Page: 180

What did you husband tell of his Mother and her background?
Have you looked to see if anyone else has any of them in their trees on here, and have you put them in your tree, so others can find you?

Hi Mary,

That one's looking good.
In any case it looks as though she married bigamously. ;-)

Catherine

What about this guys.

Cissie Johnson married in Oswestry Shropshire 1907 to William henry Dynaston or Richard Baines.

1911 at 7,New St Mexboro Rotherham
William Henry Dynaston 1872 staffs a coal miner.Died in Mansfield 1961
Cecelia Dynaston 1877 WILLINHALL staffs married 15 years (A lie me thinks ) 8 kids 2 died.
Cissie Kynaston 1903 Bolsover Derbyshire
Olive frances may Kynaston 1902 Wales.

A lot of coincidences don't you think.

Maryb.

Edit William Henry kydaston married 1901 Shropshire to Emma Pearce born 1875 died 1904 they had Olive Frances may 1902- 1997.

Looking more like the right Cecelia now.

When Cissy (born 1902) married what did she give as her father's occupation on her marriage certs.?

1891?
Name: Ceclia Wolley
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Wolley
Mother's Name: Ceclia Wolley
Gender: Female
Where born: Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Willenhall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 48 Stafford Street
Occupation: (of father) Coal Miner

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2238
Folio: 115
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William Wolley 32
Ceclia Wolley 34
Ceclia Wolley 14
S Elizabeth Wolley 12
Gertrude Wolley 10
Louisa Wolley 7
G W Wolley 5
S Thomas Wolley 2

What was Cissie's father's occupation on the marriage cert.?
And what address did she give?

1881?

Name: Cicely Wolley
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William Wolley
Mother's Name: Cicely Wolley
Gender: Female
Where born: Willenhall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Willenhall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Smoky Row

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Willenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2810
Folio: 97
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
<<<< William Wolley 24 born: Whitchurch, Shropshire (Labourer at the Iron Works)
Cicely Wolley 24
Cicely Wolley 4
Sarah E. Wolley 2

If Cissie's maiden name was Whalley and she was born abt.1878, Staffordshire, then this is the closest I can get to a birth:-

Births Sep 1877 (>99%)
Wolley Cicely Wolverhampton 6b 593

The possible 1911 Cissie daughter adopted could also be this one:
Births Jun 1903
Johnson Cissie Ashby Z. 7a 119
as neither were born in Shropshire

William Johnson in 1911?

JOHNSON, William Head Married M 37 1874 Coal Miner Hewer Eckington Derbys VIEW

FOSTER, Emily Single F 27 1884 Housekeeper Burton on Trent Staffs VIEW
FOSTER, Olive May Johnson Daughter F 3 1908 Bolsover Derbys VIEW
FOSTER, J William Johnson Son M 2 1909 Bolsover Derbys VIEW
FOSTER, George Johnson Son M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 Bolsover Derbys VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
21122 Reference:
RG14PN21122 RG78PN1258 RD438 SD3 ED1 SN61

Registration District:
Chesterfield Sub District:
Bolsover Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Bolsover

Address:
16 High Street Bolsover Chesterfield County:
Derbyshire

William is noted as having 4 children - 3 living and 1 died.

From the info on 1911 census my theory would be that:-
William and Cissey split up.
The three children noted above all have the surname Foster but middle name Williams which makes me think that William lived with Emily Foster and they had three children together.
Cissey must still be alive as William is noted as married and not widow.

Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%)
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Johnson Cissie C Revill Mansfield 7b 271

Revill Frederick H Johnson Mansfield 7b 271

Mabe if you get her marriage certificate for this one to see what fathers name is one it.

Regards Vera

Was Cissie adopted?

For reference:
Births Dec 1902
JOHNSON Cissie Crowder Mansfield 7b 87

Surname was Johnson according to this.

???

Births Dec 1902 (>99%)
JOHNSON Cissie Crowder Mansfield 7b 87

FOR REF.

1901

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JOHNSON, William Head Married M 27 1874 Coal Miner Hewer
Eckington
Derbyshire VIEW
JOHNSON, Cissy Wife Married F 23 1878
Willenhall
Staffordshire VIEW

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Piece:
3254 Folio:
16 Page:
24 Registration District:
Chesterfield

Civil Parish:
Bolsover Municipal Borough:
Address:
High Street, Bolsover County:
Derbyshire

Regards Vera