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Stuart

Stuart Report 13 Oct 2011 19:12

Does anyone have access to Canadian records? I am trying to find the birth of my grandfather known as Edwin aka Evan McPherson born 1873. His father was William McPherson unfortunately do not know wife's name. Any help would be appreciated as I am really struggling.

Clare

Clare Report 13 Oct 2011 19:24

The only possible match I can see is a Robert E Mcpherson. Father is William Mcpherson, mother Isabella smith both of Scotland. Robert E died 28 May 1934. Does this sound possible?

Clare

mgnv

mgnv Report 13 Oct 2011 19:31

Like the UK, Canada has no national BMD registration. In Canada's case, it's a provincial responsibility, so you need to know which province had jurisdiction.

The census is available (with free images) from 1871 on via the links at:
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-911.009-e.html

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 13 Oct 2011 19:31

Possibly him?

Name: Evan McPHERSON
Year of Record: 1901
Source/Event: 1901 Census of Canada: Province of Quebec (Extraction of those who where born outside of Canada and have given a year of immigration to Canada)
Comments: immigrated to Canada in 1888
Age: 28
Reference: National Archives of Canada: Microfilm Reel No. T-6523, District 155 - Hochelaga, Sub-District D1 - Westmount, City, page 11

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 13 Oct 2011 19:36

for birth records you need to know what province, all vital statistics are recorded on a province by province basis

only some provinces have searchable databases on line

the 1881 census is free at familysearch.org but the site is down now when I try

at Ancestry I don't see an Edwin or Evan to match that birthdate in the 1881 census

you need to give more information that you have to help identify him

might he be this person in the 1901 census in Hochelaga Quebec ?

McPherson Evan M Head M Jan 1 1873 28
McPherson Mary F Wife M Dec 8 1873 27
McPherson Amelia F Daughter S Apr 29 1897 3

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.jsp

free access to 1901 and 1911 censuses

WayneTracey

WayneTracey Report 13 Oct 2011 19:37

Did Evan died in 1938?

I have found a possible newspaper clipping for him :-)

T x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 13 Oct 2011 20:27

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name: Evan Macpherson
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Date of Arrival: Apr 1881
Vessel: Manitoban
Port of Arrival: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Roll: C-4511

Hard to read, but it looks like the people he was travelling with were:

Andrew?? 34, a mechanic
June (Janet?) 29
Marion 6

This matches the record WayneTracey found but not sure if it's the right chap?

Clare

Clare Report 13 Oct 2011 21:00

1891 census in canada
Name: Evan Macpherson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Fils (Son)
Religion: Free Church
French Canadian: No
Father's Birth Place: Scotland
Mother's Birth Place: Scotland
Province: Quebec
District Number: 154
District: Hochelaga
Subdistrict: Ste Cunégonde Town

Andrew Macpherson 45
Jessie Macpherson 40
Evan Macpherson 18
Marie Anne Macpherson 16

This Evan's father is obviously not William, so I guess it is not the right one

Clare

Stuart

Stuart Report 15 Oct 2011 16:30

Hi Clare
As you say this is not the correct one
Thanks
Lynda McPherson

Stuart

Stuart Report 15 Oct 2011 16:38


MarieCeleste This is not the correct one thanks
Lynda McPherson

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 15 Oct 2011 18:24

Stuart if you would tell us what you know about your grandfather ... that we obviously do not ?

there is no point in people guessing at censuses etc

where did he live in Canada ??

what was his wife's name, did he have children by 1911 ?

where and when did he die ?

if he was married ( had children ) by 1911 it should be possible to find them in a census one way or another

it's been explained that birth marriage death records have to be searched for by province

without knowing what province he lived in, nobody can help at all really ...


you have marked a post in this thread as 'answered' ... this business is confusing for many people ... what the 'answered' means is that your question has been answered, so other people don't need to look at your thread anymore

it would be a good idea to 'untick' that post, the first reply in the thead ... you will see something like 'mark as unanswered' at the top of the post, click there ( the rest of us can't see what you should tick as only you can tick posts in your own thread )

Stuart

Stuart Report 16 Oct 2011 17:17

Cjrissiex
Thanks for your help, fairly new to this and find it confusing. I have very little
information and no one to ask. I am doing this for my husband. We do not know where his grandfather was born, cannot find any birth for him in England or Scotland. This is all info I have- I have copy of marriage certifcate for Edwin aka Evan McPherson dated 28/4/18, bachelor, aged 45, profession shown as Seaman, father's name William Macpherson, surname can be spelt either way. I do not know if he was born in Canada, just trying. Only know that he was in England when he married in April 1918.
My father in law was born in Dec 1918, named Evan Cluny McPherson, father's name shown as Evan McPherson,profession Able Seaman, wife's
name is Ellen Eliza McPherson who was a widow. With regards to William I have no details. Hope you can give so suggestions. Thanks for interest.
Lynda McPherson

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 16 Oct 2011 21:58

mmm ... it is really nice to know if something is a guess and not a known fact ! the odds are that he didn't come from Canada ... but it's possible that he did and was in the Canadian navy in WWI maybe ...


this is the only thing the 1881 Canadian census shows for the name with father William

William MCPHERSON M Male Scottish 50 Nova Scotia Miller Church of Scotland
Catherine MCPHERSON M Female Scottish 48 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland
Even A MCPHERSON Male Scottish 21 Nova Scotia Teacher Church of Scotland
William F MCPHERSON Male Scottish 17 Nova Scotia -Son Church of Scotland
Daniel MCPHERSON Male Scottish 15 Nova Scotia Son Church of Scotland
Hugh MCPHERSON Male Scottish 13 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland
Robert MCPHERSON Male Scottish 11 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland
Sarah MCPHERSON Female Scottish 8 Nova Scotia Church of Scotland
Census Place McLennan's Mountain, Pictou, Nova Scotia

and that Evan is too old and the occupations don't match

is there an occupation for the father on the marriage certificate ?

do you have his death information ... would this be him ?

Name: Evan Mcpherson
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1941
Age at Death: 76
Registration district: Shoreditch
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 132

his name is spelt Mac on the marriage

Marriages Jun 1918
Barker Ellen E Macpherson Poplar 1c 635
MacPherson Edwin Barker Poplar 1c 635

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2011 19:25

Lynda - whereabouts did that 1918 wedding take place?

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 17 Oct 2011 20:05

hi Marie Celeste, Lynda ( sorry, not Stuart ) said

'Ellen Eliza McPherson who was a widow'

so I assumed the marriage at the bottom of my previous post

Marriages Jun 1918
Barker Ellen E Macpherson Poplar 1c 635
MacPherson Edwin Barker Poplar 1c 635

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 17 Oct 2011 20:08

hold on, isn't this too much of a coincidence in the 1911 census ?

MAPHERSON EVAN CLUNY 1869 42 Willesden Middlesex

that was his son's name, Evan Cluny Mcpherson

( luckily I searched for e*n m*pherson ! )

living with

MAPHERSON MINNIE LAURA 1869 42
MAPHERSON LAURIE 1891 20
MAPHERSON DONALD 1894 17
MAPHERSON MARJORIE CLAIRE 1897 14
MAPHERSON NIGEL 1909 2


it looks to me like Evan aka Edwin because maybe he was a bigamist !

Marriages Mar 1891
Macpherson Evan Cluny Hendon 3a 247
Taylor Minnie Laurie Hendon 3a 247


Deaths Sep 1935 ?
MacPherson Minnie L 68 Newton 8c 148

something mistranscribed in the reg details, here is the correct one from Ancestry

Name: Minnie L Macpherson
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 148

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2011 20:12

Yes, sorry, not very good at reading large posts! (slinks off to naughty step for not paying attention properly)

But, if it's any help, Ellen Barker's maiden name was Wheeler (from cert on Ancestry - her father was John Wheeler, deceased, labourer)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2011 20:14

MAPHERSON, Evan Cluny Head Married 21 years M 42 1869 Architect Camden Town
MAPHERSON, Minnie Laura Wife Married 21 years F 42 1869 New Market
MAPHERSON, Laurie Daughter Single F 20 1891 Westminster
MAPHERSON, Donald Son Single M 17 1894 Architect Assistant Westminster
MAPHERSON, Marjorie Claire Daughter Single F 14 1897 Streatham Hill
MAPHERSON, Nigel Son M 2 1909 Willesden Green
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Registration District: Willesden
Sub District: Willesden
Enumeration District: 76
Parish: Willesden

Address: 12 Staverton Road Brondesbury Park County: Middlesex

The 4 children were the only born.

(It's MacPherson on original - will submit correction)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2011 20:22

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915

Name: Evan Cluny Macpherson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1891
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 247

Married Minnie Laurie Taylor

chrissiex

chrissiex Report 17 Oct 2011 20:23

yes I put the marriage in my post :-)


hmm, well the name is still a big coincidence but the occupation doesn't match much

unless there was scandal and he ran off to sea !

it would be really nice to have some answers

like when and where Evan/Edwin and wife Ellen died ... so we can see what info is on the death records ...


edit, looks like maybe two different people but surely related somehow

Name: Evan C Macpherson
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1955
Age at Death: 90
Registration district: North Bucks
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 370