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12 Oct 2011 17:08 |
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I wonder if anyone could point me in the right direction, Joseph Greenhalgh is my GG Grandfather, he was born in 1841? in Tottington, Bury Lancs, and died in 1914 ( i know this is correct as I have seen the grave, his first wife was called Mary, (but Mary who?) I have trawled through lots of records and cannot seem to find out, she died in 1909. he then married again to a Elizabeth. she died in 1941. :-(
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12 Oct 2011 17:12 |
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Is this him on 1911?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARKINSON, William Head Widower M 81 1830 Brass Finisher Lancs Bolton VIEW PARKINSON, Francess Daughter Single F 46 1865 Lancs Bolton VIEW GREENHALGH, Joseph Head Married M 70 1841 Retired Loom Jobber Lancs Bury VIEW GREENHALGH, Elizabeth Boarder Married 1 years F 53 1858 Dressmaking Lancs Bolton VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG14 Piece: 23255 Reference: RG14PN23255 RG78PN1359 RD461 SD1 ED4 SN156 Registration District: Bolton Sub District: Farnworth Enumeration District: 4 Parish: Farnworth Address: 85 Peel St Farnworth County: Lancashire Dea x
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12 Oct 2011 17:16 |
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Marriage Record Name Joseph Greenhalgh Year of Marriage 1865 Quarter of Marriage Apr-May-Jun Registration District Bury Registration County Lancashire Spouse's Surname Only available for records after 1912 Volume Number 8C Volume Page 438
Mary ashton????
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12 Oct 2011 17:18 |
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possible
Marriages Sep 1861 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bowen Mary Bury 8c 442 ******* Brooks Charlotte Bury 8c 442 Greenhalgh Joseph Bury 8c 442 **** Tattersall Thomas Bury 8c 442
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Anne
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12 Oct 2011 17:19 |
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Yes that is him in 1911, I had him down as married to Ashton, but now I am not sure if that is correct
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12 Oct 2011 17:24 |
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have you got the marriage cert??
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Dea
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12 Oct 2011 18:00 |
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Do you have details of Joseph's children please as the one I am following seems to have been previously married to a Betsy ??
Children - John c 1864, Alice Ann c 1868 and James c 1877 ??
Is this the correct one?
1881: GREENHALGH, Joseph Head Married M 40 1841 Mill Mechanic Tottington Lancashire VIEW GREENHALGH, Mary Wife Married F 40 1841 Farnworth Lancashire VIEW GREENHALGH, John Son Single M 17 1864 Stone Mason (Apprenticed) Tottington Lancashire VIEW GREENHALGH, Alice Ann Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar Farnworth Lancashire VIEW GREENHALGH, James Son Single M 4 1877 Scholar Farnworth Lancashire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3812 Folio: 106 Page: 24 Registration District: Bolton Civil Parish: Farnworth Municipal Borough: Address: 27, Harrowby St, Farnworth County: Lancashire ////////////////// 1871:
GREENHALGH, Joseph Head M 29 1842 Lancashire -Loom jobber in Cotton Mill GREENHALGH, Betsey Wife F 30 1841 Lancashire ????? GREENHALGH, John Son M 7 1864 Lancashire GREENHALGH, Alice Ann Daughter F 2 1869 Lancashire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Piece: 3918 Folio: 44 Page: 31 Registration District: Bolton Civil Parish: Farnworth Municipal Borough: Address: Wellington Street, Farnworth County: Lancashire
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lancashireAnn
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12 Oct 2011 23:14 |
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these seem to be the children of Greenhalgh / Bowen
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1862 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH Henry Tottington Bury BOWEN TOTT/9/66
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH Emma Tottington Bury BOWEN TOTT/10/29
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1877 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH Louisa Tottington Bury BOWEN TOTT/15/54
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lancashireAnn
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12 Oct 2011 23:15 |
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and these of Greenhalgh / Ashton
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1860 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH Elizabeth Ann Bury North Bury ASHTON BN/23/11
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1862 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH John Bury North Bury ASHTON BN/25/83
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lancashireAnn
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12 Oct 2011 23:17 |
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and the matching 1981 for Bowen
Joseph GREENHALGH Head M Male 48 Tottington, Lancashire, England Fustian Dyer At Dy Works Mary GREENHALGH Wife M Female 41 Eccles, Lancashire, England Housework Emma GREENHALGH Daur U Female 17 Tottington, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Hugh GREENHALGH Son U Male 14 Tottington, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Louisa GREENHALGH Daur Female 4 Tottington, Lancashire, England Infant Margeret A. GREENHALGH Daur Female 2 Tottington, Lancashire, England Infant
Source Information: Dwelling Booth Lane Goodhill Census Place Tottington Lower End, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341921 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3851 / 75 Page Number 35
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Anne
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14 Oct 2011 20:47 |
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Many thanks to Dea, KMF, George of Westbury, for all your help with Joseph Greenhalgh. You are a fantastic lot. Anne. x ;-)
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Dea
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14 Oct 2011 20:51 |
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Hi Anne,
Your thanks are welcome but I don't think we have got you any further on this yet ???
I am going off soon but from what I looked at the othet day, I don't think that the Bowen marriage, or the Ashton marriage is the one you are looking for.
I am sure we could help you further if you could give a little more info on what you have.
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Anne
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16 Oct 2011 12:11 |
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Sorry I have not answered sooner,all I know definitely is that he was born in approx 1841 in Tottington, he died in 1914, he is buried in Farnworth Cemetery in that grave is his wife Mary? she was also born in the Tottington area born same year, died in 1909, also in the grave is his 2nd wife, Elizabeth Greenhalgh born 1858 and died in 1941. aged 83 yrs. In 1911 he his shown as living in Peel Street Farnworth, (as somone has already said,) he was 70, and Betty 53. and married 1 year, I did actually send for a certificate for James (my GG) Joes son, but I don't think it is the right one, it shows Joe as a beerseller in Dawes St, Bolton and his mother as Mary Ashworth, so that is where I have got that lead from. As far as I know Joe was a mill mechanic for a while, I know, not alot to go on. Regards Anne. ;-)
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Anne
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16 Oct 2011 12:14 |
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Dea also the information you sent me on the 12th Oct at 1800 hrs is the correct family. Anne
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lancashireAnn
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16 Oct 2011 13:59 |
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Hi Anne
you say that the info Dea gave you on 12th Oct is correct
In that info in 1871 Joseph is married to a Betsey and in 1881 to a Mary
I wonder if in fact Joseph was married 3 times
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1861 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GREENHALGH Joseph BOARDMAN Betsey Bury, St.Mary Bury CE7/20/25
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1864 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH John Tottington Bury BOARDMAN TOTT/10/25
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1869 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference GREENHALGH Alice Tottington Bury BOARDMAN TOTT/12/30
or is it complete coincidence (there are quite a few children Greenhalgh/Boardman but they cannot all be the same family as several were registered in one year)
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lancashireAnn
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16 Oct 2011 14:04 |
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possible baptism of James - same address as 1881 census
Baptisms: 20 Jan 1877 Egerton Street Wesleyan Methodist, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Lancashire, England James Greenhalgh - Child of Joseph Greenhalgh & Betsy Born: 22 Nov 1876 Abode: 27 Harrowby St Farnworth Source: Church Registers transcribed by Bolton Genealogy Group
so marriage to Mary between 1877 & 1881
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16 Oct 2011 14:08 |
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and Alice Ann
Baptisms: 18 Nov 1868 Wesleyan Methodist, Farnworth, Lancashire, England Alice Ann Greenhalgh - Child of Joseph Greenhalgh & Betsey Born: 20 Sep 1868 Abode: Farnworth Source: Church Registers transcribed by Bolton Genealogy Group
and a Joseph - again same address as 1881
Baptisms: 4 Oct 1874 Egerton Street Wesleyan Methodist, Moses Gate, Farnworth, Lancashire, England Joseph Greenhalgh - Child of Joseph Greenhalgh & Betsy Born: 29 Jul 1874 Abode: 27 Harrowby St Farnworth Source: Church Registers transcribed by Bolton Genealogy Group
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lancashireAnn
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16 Oct 2011 14:20 |
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if the marriage to Mary took place in the same church, the registrar would have to be present and one of these could be the marriage
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1878 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GREENHALGH Joseph HOWARTH Mary Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/62/8
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1880 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference GREENHALGH Joseph ROBINSON Mary Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended Bolton RO/70/40
were there any children born after 1881?
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16 Oct 2011 14:47 |
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Hi Anne,
It seems your connection is via son James.
Could you tell me who, when and where he married please and any other details you have on him?
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16 Oct 2011 15:45 |
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It's O.K. - I have it:
Marriage: 21 Feb 1898 St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, Lancashire, England James Greenhalgh - 21 Piecer Bachelor of Presto Street Eliza Alice Leach - 20 Weaver Spinster of St. John's Street Groom's Father: Joseph Greenhalgh, Mechanic Witness: Walter Laycock; Sarah Jane Banks Married by Banns by: H. S. Butler Vicar Notes: [No information entered for Bride's father]
Witnesses: Walter Laycock +Sarah Jane Banks. Register: Marriages 1893 - 1901, Page 151, Entry 302 Source: LDS Film 1538441
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