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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 22:33 |
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Good evening I have found in the 1841 census on Ancestry: Orchard Street, Westminster, St Margarets, Middlesex John Cocks (mistranscribed as Pocks) 55 Carpenter Not same county Susannah (Pocks) 55 Not same county David Henry (mistranscribed as Parks) 12 Same county Letta (Parks) 8 Same county I've tried various searches on Ancestry but cannot find any of them in later census years. There is a death for John Cock in Sep 1847 in Westminster and a death for Susannah Cocks in Mar 1847 in Westminster, which may be mine and would explain nothing in 1851 onwards. Any help much appreciated. Sorry for long message Thanks in advance Ron
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11 Oct 2011 22:55 |
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I presume you have investigated this marriage
Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bromhead Maria Louisa Westminster 1 420 CADOGAN Ellen Westminster 1 420 COCKS David Henry Westminster 1 420 Cosgrove Cecelia Westminster 1 420 JEFFERIES Moses Westminster 1 420 Mills James Westminster 1 420 MORAN Bartholomew Westminster 1 420 RODGERS Ann Westminster 1 420
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11 Oct 2011 23:03 |
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Hi GB You must be getting fed up with me. Thanks for your help again. No, I've not investigated this marriage as have only just found 1841 census
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11 Oct 2011 23:05 |
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Struggling with this one at the moment
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11 Oct 2011 23:08 |
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? best I can offer
Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cocks Letetia Chelsea 1a 261 Fieldhouse William Chelsea 1a 261 Hodgson Joseph Chelsea 1a 261 Povale Jane Chelsea 1a 261
William married Jane
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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 23:14 |
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Thanks. Hodgson rings tiny bells. I'll have to have a look at my folders.
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11 Oct 2011 23:14 |
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Maybe??
Deaths Mar 1858 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hodgson Letitia Brentford 3a 57
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11 Oct 2011 23:18 |
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Name: Joseph Hodgson - plasterer Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Spouse Name: Letitia Cocks Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 16 May 1853 Parish: St Luke, Chelsea County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Samuel Hodgson Spouse Father Name: John Cocks - carpenter
Address given as Oxford Terrace
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11 Oct 2011 23:20 |
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Am guessing here ......
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Margaret Jane Hodgson Name: Margaret Jane Hodgson Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1856 Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1856 Father's Name: William Hodgson Mother's Name: Letitia Frances Hodgson Parish or Poor Law Union: Acton St Mary Borough: Ealing 1861 England Census about Margaret Hodgson Name: Margaret Hodgson Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Acton, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Acton County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Brentford Sub-registration district: Acton ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 142 Piece: 781 Folio: 13 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Arabella Hodgson 50 Margaret Hodgson 4 Louisa Atlee 38
EDIT NO GUESSED WRONG
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bluck Letitia Frances W London 2 248 Hodgson William W London 2 248
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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 23:21 |
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Thanks Andy. That's a possibilty.
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11 Oct 2011 23:22 |
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I am not aware of anyone getting fed up with you Ronald.
If the David Henry who married in 1845 is the David Henry who was 12 in 1841, then he was only 16 on marriage. Not impossible, though unusual.
Or maybe his age in 1841 was incorrect. You would need to get the marriage cert to be sure.
But your question is about finding them in later years.
Can I ask who your known ancestor is? And how you know who he or she is, i.e what evidennce you have?
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11 Oct 2011 23:23 |
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Name: Letitia Hodgson Record Type: Baptism Estimated Birth Date: abt 1854 Baptism Date: 16 Jul 1854 Father's Name: Joseph Hodgson Mother's Name: Letitia Hodgson Parish or Poor Law Union: Chelsea St Luke Borough: Kensington and Chelsea
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11 Oct 2011 23:31 |
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Another 2 children baptised 19 Sep 1858, Ada and henry
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11 Oct 2011 23:43 |
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Blowed if I can find any of them in 1861
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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 23:43 |
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GB - I think you've cracked it again with the Joseph Hodgson marriage. How did you access details of marriage without cert? Brilliant.
Madmeg The Cocks family are on my mother's side. They were mainly undertakers living in Westminster and Fulham. The John Cocks I've found on the 1841 lived in Orchard Street, which is close to my other John Cocks (Rochester Row). I don't know if the 1841 John is definitely related to my family, but another lady who is also researching Cocks believes there is a link. I take your point about David Henry Cocks marriage.
Andy I think the Ealing Hodgson is not mine, but thanks anyway
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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 23:45 |
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Andy Sorry, you'd already said you had guessed incorrectly
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Ronald
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11 Oct 2011 23:57 |
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Have found Joseph and Letitia on 1871 and 1881 census returns, but nothing on 1861 as you said GB. Thanks for all your help again. Off to bed now. Best wishes Ron
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12 Oct 2011 00:05 |
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?? Name: Letitia Hodgson Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Spouse Name: Charles Green Spouse Age: 26 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 Mar 1880 Parish: St Luke, Chelsea County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Joseph Edward Hodgson -builder Spouse Father Name: John Green
One witness is Florence Edwards
?? Name: Joseph Edward Hodgson Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Spouse Name: Eliza Ann Rees Spouse Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 02 Apr 1885 Parish: St Luke, Chelsea County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Joseph Edward Hodgson - plasterer Spouse Father Name: Charles Edward Rees
?? Name: Florence Hodgson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Spouse Name: George Edwards Spouse Age: 24 Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1879 Parish: Holy Trinity, Brompton Road County: Middlesex Borough: Kensington and Chelsea Father Name: Joseph Edward Hodgson Spouse Father Name: Jesse Edwards
Are there two families with the same name
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12 Oct 2011 07:05 |
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Are there two families with the same name...I think there are.
Ronald - when you say "Have found Joseph and Letitia on 1871 and 1881 census returns, but nothing on 1861 as you said GB"
where have you found them (do you have the references?)
Jude
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12 Oct 2011 12:40 |
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1871 I presume this family
Name: Letitia Hodgson Age: 38 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Hodgson Gender: Female Where born: Westminster, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Chelsea St Luke Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-West ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 81 Folio: 56 Page Number: 47 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Hodgson 41 Letitia Hodgson 38 Florence Hodgson 10 Rhoda Hodgson 8 Joseph Hodgson 6 Laura Hodgson 3 Months William Elliott 40 Esther Elliott 40 Class: RG10; Piece: 81; Folio: 56; Page: 47; GSU roll: 824583
Joseph is a plasterer
1881 Name: Letitia Hodgson Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Joseph Hodgson Gender: Female Where born: Westminster Civil parish: Chelsea County/Island: London Country: England Street Address: 17 Robert St Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Chelsea, North-West ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 82 Folio: 27 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Hodgson 51 born Chelsea - plasterer Letitia Hodgson 47 Joseph Hodgson 16 Laura Hodgson 10 Fredk. Hodgson 7 Walter Hodgson 1 Class: RG11; Piece: 82; Folio: 27; Page: 2; GSU roll: 1341018
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