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Hi all,

I'm hoping for some help in finding a marriage certificate for my GG Grandparents.

Reginald George Mallows b 1873, Hadstock, Essex d 08/04/1952 Mordialloc, Victoria, Australia (known as Reginald OR George)

Elizabeth Jane Stewart b 1871, Armagh, Northern Ireland d 15/09/1943 Melbourne, Victoria, Australia (known as Lily)

The two went to South Africa around 1900 - 1902 where they gave birth to 3 children and came back to Southampton on 30 June 1911. I have all that information *unless you're able to help with birth / death certificates FROM SOUTH AFRICA*

I have had NO luck at all finding any marriage information at all. I want to buy a wedding certificate, but without the GRO index, I think it would be a waste of time even applying.

Is there anyone who can help? I have my G Grandmother's birth certificate from 1909 in Johannesburg, South Africa and that states that Reginald and Elizabeth were married at that time. I would guess their marriage would be between 1891 - 1901.

Hope to hear from someone soon.

Thanks :-D

Hi, On Ancestry there is a copy of the death cert. At the end there is a question about marriage,and it says married in Johannasburg. Guess you will have to try there.
Eileen

1881

William MALLOUS Head M Male 36 Comberton, Cambridge, England Ag. Lab.
Eliza MALLOUS Wife M Female 34 Hadstock, Essex, England Ag. Lab's Wife
Charles PEARSON Son In Law U Male 16 Hadstock, Essex, England Ag. Lab.
Harriet MALLOUS Daur. Female 12 Hadstock, Essex, England Scholar
George MALLOUS Son Male 8 Hadstock, Essex, England Scholar
Harry MALLOUS Son Male 5 Hadstock, Essex, England Scholar
James MALLOUS Son Male 3 Hadstock, Essex, England Scholar
Fannie MALLOUS Daur. Female 9 m Hadstock, Essex, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 5 Church End
Census Place Hadstock, Essex, England
Family History Library Film 1341400
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1672 / 82
Page Number 10

No sign of him in England in 1901

No sign of either of them in Ireland in the same year

EDIT...........

I looked for the woman as STEWARD, as per text of your post.

Which version of her surname is actually correct?

Ive just looked at his death cert that is on a public tree

It says he married in Jburg and at the time of his death had been married for 30 years, making his marriage year 1922?

Seems a bit late?

Maybe Im not looking hard enough....I cant see his birth?

only birth with those first names?
Name: George Reginald Dawer
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1873
Registration district: Halstead
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 379

looks like this might be them? births
Name: George Mallows
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1873
Registration district: Linton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 567

Name: Fanny Louisa Mallows
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1880
Registration district: Linton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire, Essex
Volume: 3b
Page: 523

Name: James William Mallows
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1878
Registration district: Linton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 517

Name: Harry Walter Mallows
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1875
Registration district: Linton
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire, Essex
Volume: 3b
Page: 525 (

1891 Registration district: Linton
Sub-registration district: Linton
Name: George Mallows
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William Mallows
Mother's Name: Eliza Mallows
Gender: Male
Where born: Hadstock, Essex, England
Civil parish: Hadstock
Ecclesiastical parish: Hadstock
Town: Hadstock
County/Island: Essex
Country: England


Household Members:
Name Age
William Mallows 46
Eliza Mallows 46
George Mallows 18
Harry Mallows 15
James Mallows 13
Fanny Mallows 10
Ernest Mallows 8
Dennis Mallows 5
Lilly Mallows 3
Joseph Mallows 2/12

Ginny, Hi - I think the death certificate states age when married ,not how many years married

Hey guys. Thanks for all the info you've provided. His name on the CENSUS was GEORGE and sometimes the surname was mispelt as MALLOUS.

It is possible they were married in South Africa. I haven't been able to locate George / Reginald and Elizabeth leaving England for South Africa. That itself would let us know if they were married in the UK or South Africa if Elizabeth's maiden name is listed.

Can anyone assist with this?

I have his death cert listed on ancestry so that's probably my tree you're viewing :)

Cheers

Does anyone know anywhere online to search South African documents? I've tried looking around, and even contacting a group that offered to search documents on your behalf.

No luck though.

Try
ancestry24.com/-South Africa
It says tthere are marriages for Jo'berg.
Eileen

Is anyone able to help find these two individuals leaving UK for South Africa? I still can't.

Reginald George MALLOWS (b1873 in Essex, England)
Elizabeth Jane STEWART (b1871 in Armagh, Ireland)

As mentioned above, from Reginald's death certificate it looks like the couple were married in South Africa. They had three children. Born between roughly 1902-1909, all in South Africa.

I'm guessing maybe they went to South Africa separately and met there and married, or they went together as singles and married over there. I'm unsure.

If anyone could assist with finding them leaving UK for South Africa, that would be helpful. I've tried contacting South Africa for birth certificates for the kids and marriages for the couple but if anyone else has had had to deal with them, they'll appreciate how difficult it is.

Cheers,

How about this one?

passenger transcript details
Name: Sapper MALLOWS
Date of departure: 10 October 1903
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Cape, South Africa
Passenger destination: Cape, South Africa

Date of Birth: 1874 (calculated from age)
Age: 29
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Military
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 4




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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
DAMASCUS

R Mckilliam
Geo. Thompson & Co.
Sydney, Australia
3803
2365

Thanks Jax. I'm not aware of any military positions he had. That's not to say he didn't. When they moved to Australia he worked as a labourer / landscaper for the council at a golf course.

Not excluding it though.

Also wondering what 'Sapper' would be a nickname for?

From wikipedia

A sapper, also called pioneer or combat engineer, is a combatant or soldier who performs a variety of military engineering duties such as bridge-building, laying or clearing minefields, demolitions, field defences and general construction, as well as road and airfield construction and repair. They are also trained to serve as infantry personnel in defensive and offensive operations. A sapper's tasks are devoted to tasks involving facilitating movement of allied forces and impeding those of enemies.

The term "sapper" is used in the British Army, Polish Army, Commonwealth nations and U.S. military.

Sapper is the rank of a serving member of the Corps of Royal Engineers - equivalent to Private in other Regiments/Corps