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HI folks,

Could some kind person look up Alexander Forbes in the 1941 census.?

His wifes name is Alice..and should have 2 sons..Edward & William?

I believe he was born in 1811 in Liverpool...but may have come from Scotland..not sure.

Alice was born in Liverpool 1820...

I have them in my tree yet don't appear to have made note of them in the census.!
I don't believe Alice is in the 1851 census as she marries for a second time in early 51.
This could mean Alexander died sometime between 1841 & 51..I do not know. So do not know if they had any more children other than Edward & William...or even what happed to them after 1851.

Anyway...any details would be great!.

Thanks in advance.
Paul

FORBES, Alexander M 30 1811 Lancashire << Hatter
FORBES, Alice F 25 1816 Lancashire
FORBES, Edward M 3 1838 Lancashire
FORBES, William M 1 1840 Lancashire
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Registration District: Ashton & Oldham
Sub District: Audenshaw & Droylsden
Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne

Address: Hooley Hill, Ashton Under Lyne, Audenshaw County: Lancashire

** Adult ages in the 1841 were rounded to the nearest 5, so 1811 may not be his actual year of birth

1841 England Census
about Alexander Forbes Name: Alexander Forbes
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Ashton Under Lyne
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Audenshaw and Droylsden
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 533
Book: 1
Folio: 13
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Alexander Forbes 30
Alice Forbes 25
Edward Forbes 3
William Forbes 1

All born in county. He's a hatter journeyman.

I'm guessing this is the death of the chap in the 1841:

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Alexander Forbes
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1867
Age at Death: 54
Registration district: Ashton Under Lyne
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 303

He and Alice are still together in 1851 with a few more children:

FORBES, Alexander Head Married M 40 1811 Hat Finisher Stockport Cheshire
FORBES, Alice Wife Married F 35 1816 Hat Trimmer Denton Lancashire
FORBES, Edward Son Unmarried M 13 1838 Cardroom Cotton Openshaw Lancashire
FORBES, Sarah Daughter F 8 1843 Scholar Hooley Hill Lancashire
FORBES, William Son M 4 1847 Scholar Hooley Hill Lancashire
FORBES, John Son M 1 1850 Hooley Hill Lancashire
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Registration District: Ashton-Under-Lyne
Sub District: Audenshaw and Droylsden
Enumeration District: 2B Ecclesiastical
Parish: St Stephen
Civil Parish: Ashton Under Lyne

Address: Dysons Opening, Ashton Under Lyne County: Lancashire

Super!....thanks peeps....MarieCeleste & Margee :)

I must have looked at it at somepoint..but for some reason..didn't make notes..

Its just my Wolrd Access membership ran out a couple of months ago..and i can't remnew right now.

Thank you for the posts...i can add the detail i didnt record. :)

Alice is my Grt Grandfathers sister...She married her sister Mary's husband, George Walkington in 1851. As Mary died in 1849.

Mary was the Grt Grandmother of Frederick Fleet, the lookout aboard the Titanic who spotted the iceberg..or not as the case maybe.

Thanks Ladies XXX
Paul

Interesting MarieCeleste....I didn't think they were togther in 1851..as Alice marries George Walkington in early 1851. ???

Paul - it is interesting - because the same family is together in 1861, with Alexander alive and kicking!

There must be some wires crossed somewhere - either the 1851 (and 1861) families are entirely different (I don't think they are, myself).

Or, there are some flaws in your info. What was Alice's maiden name, and what was your ggrandfather's name and birth year?

The only way to sort it out is to buy some certificates, but we'll see what else we can find.

Marriages Mar 1851
Walkington George Liverpool 20 314
Forbes Alice Liverpool 20 314

Living at 16 St.Mary's Terrace, Liverpool, Lancashire, England in 1851.

Marriages Sep 1839
WILSON Alice Liverpool 20 308
Forbes Alexander Liverpool 20 308

Marriages Mar 1851
Walkington George Liverpool 20 314
Forbes Alice Liverpool 20 314

Deaths Dec 1868
Walkington Alice 48 W. Derby 8b 227



Marriages Dec 1838
Walkington George Liverpool 20 285
THOMPSON Mary Liverpool 20 285

Mary is Mary WILSON who had married a Peter THOMPSON in 25/08/1833

Mary is Alices older sister.

Goerge WALKINGTON is living with brother-in-law William Wilson at House 4 Court.2, Stanhope Street, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England in 1871.

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: George Walkington <Black Maker
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1851
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Alice Forbes (nee Wilson, per father's name)
Father's Name: Thomas Walkington < Pilot
Spouse Father's Name: Peter Wilson < Shipwright

Both were widowed, of full age and both living Pitt Street.

Witnesses: Edward Loyd and Lydia Clark

Peter WILSON is my Grt Grt Grt grandfather.

Born liverpool 05/10/1782 married Frances Deane

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Alexander Forbes <PRINTER, bachelor, living Sparling (?) St
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1839
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Alice Wilson, spinster - living Dickenson Street
Father's Name: Peter Forbes < Confectioner - dead
Spouse Father's Name: Peter Wilson < Shipwright

Witnesses: James Thorton & Tho Maddock

George WALKINGTON is a "Block Maker"....as in "Block & Tackle"
..used on ships.

Peter WILSON was a shipwright...as were all my grandfathers except the last one who just worked in the dockyard.

Mary WILSON was Alices older sister..and daughter of Peter & Frances.


Baptism: 31 Mar 1811 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Wilson - Dau of Peter Wilson & Frances (formerly Deane)
Born: 2 Feb 1811
Abode: Lumber St
Occupation: Shipwright
Register: Baptisms 1810 - 1812, Page 56, Entry 461
Source: LDS Film 1656377

She married as Peter Thompson in 1833..then she married George WALKINGTON in 1838

So, I think we can probably conclude that the 1841 & 1851 are probably NOT your Alice and Alexander as the occupation is way out and can be followed through later census. Quite a coincidence with the names - so easy to go down the wrong path.

AH!!!!....looking good MarieCeleste.

That looks to be the one!! :-0

Liverpool, Lancashire, England, Marriages and Banns, 1813-1921

Name: Alexander Forbes <PRINTER, bachelor, living Sparling (?) St
Age: Full Age
Marriage Date: 26 Aug 1839
Parish: Liverpool St Philip
Spouse's Name: Alice Wilson, spinster - living Dickenson Street
Father's Name: Peter Forbes < Confectioner - dead
Spouse Father's Name: Peter Wilson < Shipwright

Witnesses: James Thorton & Tho Maddock

YES!...for sure MarieCeleste :-).... easliy done


It always helps to have someone else have a look as they might see things you miss because you can become a little to focused on one thing. :-)

This 1841 is interesting:


FORBES, Micheal M 20 1821 Lancashire < PRINTER
FORBES, Allice F 20 1821 Lancashire
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Registration District: Liverpool
Sub District: St Thomas
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Municipal Borough: Liverpool

Address: Mersey Street, Liverpool County: Lancashire

** Perhaps he didn't like the name Alexander?

GREAT JOB!!!!...MarieCeleste :-)

Can look in the right direction now...lol.....

Mind you..I am unable to go back further than Peter WILSON's father..who is also a Pete WILSON..

Its a brickwall....

He married a lady named Elizabeth...but when and where..i do not know.
All his chidlren have records for Liverpool...but I can't find anything on When & Where Peter & Elizabeth came from.

Ho Hum!!

Many thanks for your time and efforts...has made a difference which could have messed things up!.

Cheers! xxx
Paul