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29 Sep 2011 13:01 |
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Is it possible please to find this family in the 1871 census - I am particularly looking to confirm street address & occupations. Many thanks
1861 Census Sarah A Bennett Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Keyworth County/Island: Nottinghamshire Registration district: Bingham Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bennett 14 Elizabeth Bennett 47 George Bennett 21 Samuel Bennett 58 Sarah A Bennett 2 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.
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29 Sep 2011 13:13 |
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Re-posting 1861 with full info
Name: Samuel Bennett Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bennett Gender: Male Where born: Bradmore, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Keyworth County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Bingham Sub-registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 102 Piece: 2486 Folio: 97 Page Number: 32 Household Members: Name Age Samuel Bennett 58 Elizabeth Bennett 47 wife, b. Quarndon, Leics George Bennett 21 son, b. Bradmore Eliza Bennett 14 dau. b. Bradmore Sarah A Bennett 2
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29 Sep 2011 13:14 |
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Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BENNETT, Robert Head M 34 1837 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Elizabeth Wife F 32 1839 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Sarah A Daughter F 13 1858 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Frances Daughter F 11 1860 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Charles Son M 8 1863 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Hannah Daughter F 6 1865 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Mary Daughter F 3 1868 Nottinghamshire VIEW BENNETT, Ellen Daughter F 1 1870 Nottinghamshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG10 Piece: 3468 Folio: 43 Page: 13 Registration District: Mansfield Sub District: Sutton in Ashfield Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield Municipal Borough: Address: Union Street, Sutton In Ashfield County: Nottinghamshire
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29 Sep 2011 13:15 |
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Have you checked 1881 to ensure that they were still 'around'?
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29 Sep 2011 13:19 |
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Wrong part of Notts, I would suggest
Name: Sarah A Bennett Age: 13 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Robert Bennett Mother's Name: Elizabeth Bennett Gender: Female Where born: Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Sutton in Ashfield Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Sutton in Ashfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2b Household schedule number: 144 Piece: 3468 Folio: 43 Page Number: 13 Household Members: Name Age Robert Bennett 34 Elizabeth Bennett 32 Sarah A Bennett 13 Frances Bennett 11 Charles Bennett 8 Hannah Bennett 6 Mary Bennett 3 Ellen Bennett 1
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29 Sep 2011 13:20 |
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Yes, definitely the wrong people.........here they are in 1861
Name: Robert Bennett Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bennett Gender: Male Where born: Sutton in Ashfield Civil parish: Sutton in Ashfield County/Island: Nottinghamshire Country: England Registration district: Mansfield Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Piece: 2426 Folio: 30 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Robert Bennett 24 Elizabeth Bennett 23 Sarah Ann Bennett 3 Frances Bennett 1
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Gillian
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29 Sep 2011 13:22 |
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Hi Flick
I cant see Sarah Ann's aunt Elizabeth in the 1881 as she would have been married & I havent yet found her married name. ( presume at 14 its her Aunt & not her mum)?
1881 51 Gray St. Leicester. Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester >>Sarah A. 22. Born Nottingham Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester Walter J. 1. Born Leicester.
Sarahs uncle ( or dad)??: George benett - I cant see him at all in 1881? - puzzled.
I assume that the grandparents - Elizabeth & Smuel are not likely to be around in 1881.
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Gillian
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29 Sep 2011 13:27 |
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Thanks for your help folks........
Am I missing something here?
1861 - Sarah Ann Benett - grandaughter aged 2 with grandparents & 1861 Sarah Ann Benett - daughter aged 3 with parents & siblings?
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Gillian
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30 Sep 2011 09:39 |
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Hi Folks
I am trying to understand these reply postings - and am being a bit 'thick'(?)
Help please........
I have 1861 Sarah Ann Bennet aged 2 with grandparents and Flick has her aged 3 in 1961 with her parents and sibling.
The only Fact that I haveis the 1881 census.........its THIS Sarah that I am trying to trace in earlier census - in order to find her family & siblings etc: 1881 51 Gray St. Leicester. Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester >>Sarah A. 22. Born Nottingham Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester Walter J. 1. Born Leicester.
all help gratefully received
many thanks
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30 Sep 2011 09:44 |
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The 1861 which I posted proves that the 1871 posted by Salve is NOT the child YOU show in 1861
That was the reason for posting it..................you need to read my comments as well as the census transcript
What is the SURNAME of the 1881 family?
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30 Sep 2011 09:46 |
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OK.......1881 with FULL info
Name: Sarah A. Mann Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Walter J. Mann Gender: Female Where born: Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Leicester Newarke County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street Address: 51 Gray St Condition as to marriage: Married Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: West Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 69 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3180 Folio: 96 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Walter J. Mann 23 Sarah A. Mann 22 Ann M.E. Mann 3 Walter J. Mann 1 Do you have the marriage cert?
If not...........your NEED it
Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bennett Sarah Ann F Leicester 7a 268 Mann Walter James Leicester 7a 268 NEWMAN James Daniel Leicester 7a 268 Wright Emma Leicester 7a 268
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30 Sep 2011 09:56 |
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OH ..I now understand.sorry Flick.
It was to prove that something WASNT correct - not that something WAS correct !
I havent yet got the marriage cert for this couple. I thought I would 'have a go' at playing detective first to see if there were any 'clues' in the census' to confirm or not - her family.
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30 Sep 2011 09:59 |
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Name: Sarah A Mann Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Walter J Mann Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England ************************ Civil parish: Aylestone Ecclesiastical parish: Aylestone Park St James Town: Aylestone County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Blaby Sub-registration district: Wigston ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2496 Folio: 62 Page Number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Walter J Mann 33 Sarah A Mann 32 Ann M Mann 14 Walter J Mann 11 Adelaide Mann 9 Ernest Mann 5
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30 Sep 2011 10:02 |
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THanks Flick
This is ALL that I have on Sarah Ann :
The only Sarah Ann Bennett on the Birth indexes for Nottinghamshire for 1858/9/60 is : Sarah Ann Bennett Year of Registration: 1859 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun District: Bingham County: Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire Volume: 7b Page: 337 (not confirmed) If she was born March and registered the following quarter then it would make her 22 on the 1881 census (and 32 as she is on the 1891)
1861 Census: Pos / probable (not confirmed)
right registration area ( Bingham)
Sarah A Bennett Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Keyworth, Nottinghamshire, England Civil Parish: Keyworth County/Island: Nottinghamshire Registration district: Bingham Sub registration district: Ratcliffe on Trent ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Household schedule number: 102 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Bennett 14 Elizabeth Bennett 47 George Bennett 21 Samuel Bennett 58 Sarah A Bennett 2 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2486; Folio: 97; Page: 32; GSU roll: 542978.
marriage vol 7a 268 Leicester. July Sept qtr 1876
Census 1871: ?
Census 1881 51 Gray St. Leicester. Walter J. 23. Shoe Finisher. Born Leicester Sarah A. 2. Born Nottingham Ann M E 3 \Born Leicester Walter J. 1. Born Leicester. Think Sarah is 22 here, in 1881.
Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) -Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169
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30 Sep 2011 10:06 |
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Deaths Jun 1900 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mann Sarah Ann 41 Leicester 7a 169
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Name: Walter J Mann Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858 Relation: Brother-in-Law Gender: Male Where born: Notts, Nottinghamshire, England Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Peter County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: North East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 195 Piece: 2997 Folio: 86 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Nathaniel Blaksley 38 Alice L Blaksley 38 Herbert N Blaksley 14 Sydney Blaksley 11 Mabel A Blaksley 6 Walter Blaksley 8 Months Jessie E Urguhart 13 Walter J Mann 43 Florence S Mann 4 ________________________________
Marriages Dec 1884 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blaksley Nathaniel Leicester 7a 534 Mann Alice Lount Leicester 7a 534
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30 Sep 2011 10:08 |
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You must bear in mind that, until 1875, failure to register births was not penalised.....so Sarah's birth may NOT have been registered.
IF she knew her father, his name and occupation will be on her marriage cert
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30 Sep 2011 10:11 |
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ok - thats great - I didnt know that a birth didnt have to be registered......
The marriage cert may be the only way forward then. I had though that if she had a member of her family staying in one of the census (or visa versa) and I found an earlier census with her name & theirs on it - I could confirm her family without having to buy another cert.
Many thanks Flick
Gill
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