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Ken

Ken Report 26 Sep 2011 16:22

From index for 1891 census have found a ref :-

Bertie Middleton age 6 born 1885
Shoreditch, Hoxton New Town

could you please tell me others in household
Thank You
Ken.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Sep 2011 16:24

???



name: Albert Middleton
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 16
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: St Pancras, London
record type: Household
registration district: Edmonton
sub-district: Enfield
ecclesiastical parish: Enfield St Lukes
civil parish: Enfield
county: Middlesex

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Sep 2011 16:24

Name: Bertie H Middleton
[Albert Middleton]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Darnell Middleton
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, London, England
Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton Holy Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 245
Folio: 104
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
Darnell Middleton 38 (Harriet born Hoxton, London)
John E Middleton 18
Ada H Middleton 16
Arthur H Middleton 13
Lydia A Middleton 8
Bertie H Middleton 6
Freat W Middleton 4
Thomas Hutchinson 53

1881:
Name: John Middleton
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Middleton
Gender: Male
Where born: Highgate, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Leaonard Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 19 Shepherdess Walk
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Cabinet Maker
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 390
Folio: 31
Page Number: 15
Household Members:
Name Age
John Middleton 32
Harriet Middleton 28
John E. Middleton 8
Ada H. Middleton 6
Arthur H. Middleton 3

Dea

Dea Report 26 Sep 2011 16:25


1891 England Census
about Bertie H Middleton
Name: Bertie H Middleton
[Albert Middleton]
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Darnell Middleton - Looks like Harriett to me !!!
Gender: Male
Where born: Hoxton, London, England

Civil parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Hoxton Holy Trinity
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 245
Folio: 104
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Darnell Middleton 38 wid. Microscopic cabinet maker?
John E Middleton 18
Ada H Middleton 16
Arthur H Middleton 13
Lydia A Middleton 8
Bertie H Middleton 6
Freat W Middleton 4
Thomas Hutchinson 53


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 245; Folio 104; Page 10; GSU roll: 6095355.

Dea x

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Sep 2011 16:30

Name: Bertie Horace Middleton
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1885
Baptism Date: 1 Mar 1885
Father's Name: John Middleton
Mother's Name: Harriett Middleton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Hoxton St John
Borough: Hackney

Ken

Ken Report 26 Sep 2011 16:30

Many thanks for such speedy replies

SADLY not my Bertie H.

Thanks Again. Ken.

Dea

Dea Report 26 Sep 2011 16:31

Oh!!! - Naughty Jonesey !!!

You put on a different one at first and have now changed it to the one I have posted !! ;-)

Slap hands! :-D

Dea Xxx

Dea

Dea Report 26 Sep 2011 16:32

Which Bertie H are you looking for then Ken ?

Dea x

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Sep 2011 16:54

Hi Dea Hi :-)

I did indeed change my first offering as when the page renewed I immediately spotted that I had put the wrong birth year in my initial search (1886 instead of 1885). I re-did my search on Ancestry, deleted and pasted the correct result without even noticing that you had already posted the correct 1891 census.

"We all make mistakes" as the hedgehog said when he got off the scrubbing brush. ;-)

Ken

Ken Report 26 Sep 2011 19:48

I was looking for a
Bertram Horatio Middleton
born 1885 Lambeth Workhouse Infirmary
Mother Elizabeth Middleton NO father on birth Certificate
Mothers age unknown
nothing shows under the name of Bertram.

Ken

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Sep 2011 20:12

nice one Jonesey - tasteful :-) :-) :-) :-)

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Sep 2011 20:14



name: Bertram Middleton
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 17
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Battersea, London
record type: Household
registration district: Wandsworth
sub-district: North West Battersea
ecclesiastical parish: Christ Church
civil parish: Battersea
county: London, Middlesex

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Sep 2011 20:16

Ken - that's totally different from what you initially asked for!!!!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 26 Sep 2011 20:17



name: Bertram H Middleton
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 10
relationship to head of household: Son
birthplace: Torquay, Devonshire
record type: Household
registration district: Newton Abbot
sub-district: Torquay
ecclesiastical parish: Torquay St Mary'S
civil parish: Tormoham
county: Devonshire

tempest

tempest Report 26 Sep 2011 20:28

have you got his actual date of birth please?

did he marry and/or have children?

Ken

Ken Report 26 Sep 2011 21:12

Iam looking for my Grandfather who doesn,t seem to exist in records
when marrying my Nan 1911 he used the name
Bertram Horatio Warren, his ww1papers state born Lambeth 1885,
1911 census says born Waterloo Rd ( Lambeth ) He died from war service in 1917.
but i cannot find a birth, SO i searched all UK for christian name only
IE :- Bertram Horatio 1883-1886, One result came up with surname Middleton which i have tried to followup I Have been on this forever ,loads of wrong certs purchased etc I would need more space to explain all
Ken

tempest

tempest Report 26 Sep 2011 21:18

here's his marriage record, which you probably have, but it might help us on the search

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Mary Ann Trebilcock Name: Mary Ann Trebilcock
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Spouse Name: Bertram Warren
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1910
Parish: St Peter, Walworth
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Richard James Trebilcock
Spouse Father Name: Albert Edward Warren

Bertram was a Carman of 196 Portland Street
Mary ann Trebilcock was a Tinplater of 125 Trafalgar Street

Bertram gives his father as Albert Edward Warren a Reporter
Mary Ann's father was a bootmaker

tempest

tempest Report 26 Sep 2011 21:20

1911 census

Address: 45 Nursery Row S E

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

WARREN, Bertram Head Married M 27 1884 Vanguard On Whisky Van Waterloo Rd London
WARREN, Mary Ann Wife Married 1 years F 28 1883 None Trafalgar St St London

Ken

Ken Report 26 Sep 2011 21:30

Thats correct marriage
The 1911 census i have
All his Army records i have
His death in 1917 i have

Cannot find him prior to 1910 marriage
His last surviving daughter told me her father had no family???
sadly she has now passed on, she wouldn't have known him much as she was born 1913 and he was over in France & died 1917
Ken

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 26 Sep 2011 21:55

Name: Bertram Horatio
Record Type: Birth
Estimated Birth Date: 26 Jun 1885
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Middleton
Parish or Poor Law Union: Lambeth Workhouse
Borough: Lambeth
County: Middlesex

(Illegitimate written in index)

Chris :)