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Barbara
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16 Sep 2011 11:58 |
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Can anyone find me a lot of info on my gg grandfathers siblings. Partners and any children of them please The parents are Thomas Taylor and Mary Ann Smith Children Sarah Taylor born 1831 Workington Cumbria Joseph Taylor born 1835 Workington Cumbria Mary Ann Taylor born 1837 Workington Cumbria Hannah Jane born 1843 Workington Cumbria Thomas Taylor born 1843 Workington Cumbria James Enoch Taylor born 1846 Workington Cumbria Charlotte Elizabeth Taylor born 1848 Dean Cumbria Dinah Brown Taylor born 1848 Dean Cumbria Daniel Brown Taylor born Dean Cumbria Any info appreciated Wondered if their mother married again to someone called Brown as it seems unusual for Dinah and Daniel to have the same middle name Brown so sounds as if it is a surname Barbara
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:11 |
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for ref:-
1851 Name: Thomas Taylor Age: 42 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Taylor Gender: M (Male) Where born: Bolton, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Workington Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Cumberland Country: England Street Address: Schoose Cottage
Occupation: Under Gamekeeper Registration district: Cockermouth Sub-registration district: Workington ED, institution, or vessel: 8k Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 16 Piece: 2435 Folio: 293 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Taylor 42 Mary Ann Taylor 43 born: Cammerton, Cumberland Joseph Taylor 16 Mary Ann Taylor 14 Robert Smith Taylor 12 Hannah Jane Taylor 9 Thomas C Taylor 7 James Enock Taylor 5 Danial Broun Taylor 2 Charlet Elizabeth Taylor 2
1861 Name: Thomas Taylor Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1809 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary A Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Bolton, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Brancepeth Ecclesiastical parish: Durham Town: Brancepeth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Brancepeth Colliery Houses
Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 3736 Folio: 25 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Taylor 52 Mary A Taylor 53 Robert Taylor 22 Thomas Taylor 17 James Taylor 15 Dinah Taylor 12
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Potty
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16 Sep 2011 12:14 |
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If Mary had married again to a Mr Brown, surely the children would have been registered under Brown and not Taylor?
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Abby
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16 Sep 2011 12:15 |
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Name: Dinah Brown Taylor Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 29 Oct 1848 Baptism/Christening Place: DEAN,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Thomas Taylor Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Mary Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05830-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 90611 Reference Number:
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16 Sep 2011 12:16 |
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1861 England Census about Dinah Taylor Name: Dinah Taylor Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Taylor Mother's Name: Mary A Taylor Gender: Female Where born: Branthate, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Brancepeth Ecclesiastical parish: Durham Town: Brancepeth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 33 Piece: 3736 Folio: 25 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Taylor 52 Mary A Taylor 53 Robert Taylor 22 Thomas Taylor 17 James Taylor 15 Dinah Taylor 12 Is the Danial in the 1851 really Dinah? Dinah and Charlotte are registered on the same page, so probably twins.
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 12:19 |
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Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%) Davis Bolton Tynemouth 10b 312 Taylor Dinah Brown Tynemouth 10b 312
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Bolton DAVIS Head M Male 43 Blyth, Northumberland, England Block Maker Dinah Brown DAVIS Wife M Female 32 Workington, Cumberland, England Mary Ann DAVIS Daur Female 12 Blyth, Northumberland, England Scholar Bolton Stafford DAVIS Son Male 5 Blyth, Northumberland, England Scholar Dinah B. DAVIS Daur Female 3 Blyth, Northumberland, England
Source Information: Dwelling 130 Bowes St Census Place Cowpen, Northumberland, England
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Abby
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16 Sep 2011 12:22 |
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Groom's Name: Bolton Davis Groom's Birth Date: 1839 Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: 26 Bride's Name: Dinah Brown Taylor Bride's Birth Date: 1847 Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: 18 Marriage Date: 16 Sep 1865 Marriage Place: Christ Church, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England Groom's Father's Name: Marshall Davis Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Taylor Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M15598-1 System Origin: England-EASy Source Film Number: 1068933 Reference Number:
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:23 |
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1861
Joseph is living same street as his parents
Name: Joseph Taylor Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Brancepeth Ecclesiastical parish: Durham Town: Brancepeth County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Registration district: Durham Sub-registration district: St Oswald ED, institution, or vessel: 2e Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 31 Piece: 3736 Folio: 25 Page Number: 9 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Taylor 26 Mary Taylor 34 John Turnbull 17 born: Kelloe, Durham (son in law) Isaac Turnbull 15 born: Ludworth, Durham (son in law) Edward Turnbull 12 born: Haswell, Durham (son in law) Barbara Turnbull 5 born: South Hetton, Durham (daughter in law) Jane Turnbull 3 born: Brancepeth, Durham (daughter in law)
Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%) Bland Anne Durham 10a 373 <<<< Taylor Joseph Durham 10a 373 <<<< Turnbull Mary Durham 10a 373 White William Durham 10a 373
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PricklyHolly
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16 Sep 2011 12:33 |
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1891 England Census about Robert Taylor Name: Robert Taylor Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Mary D Taylor Gender: Male Where born: Werkington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cowpen Ecclesiastical parish: Horton Town: Bebside County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Blyth ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4239 Folio: 51 Page Number: 37 Household Members: Name Age Robert Taylor 52 Mary D Taylor 51 Thomas H Taylor 16 Margaret Taylor 13
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Barry
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16 Sep 2011 12:39 |
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Marriages from an Ancestry tree Thomas Taylor b 1844 to Sarah Graham. 7 children between 1869 and 1888 Robert Smith Taylor b 1839 to Mary Ann Irven 9 Aug 1864 Durham RO
Just to confuse things further, on a tree on the MUNDIA website they have Thomas b 1809 married a Mary Ann BROWN b 1808 Cammerton
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:40 |
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There is another Daniel Brown Taylor who was born in 1854 so posting this so as not to confuse this one with the Daniel above:-
Births Jun 1854 (>99%) TAYLOR Daniel Brown Liverpool 8b 2 Marriages Dec 1876 (>99%) Taylor Daniel Brown Liverpool 8b 103 Deaths Mar 1880 (>99%) Taylor Daniel Brown 26 W. Derby 8b 252
............silly me, just realised that Daniel is not Daniel but Dinah! Must need a coffee.
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:46 |
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As Charlotte is not on 1861 census, then this may be relevant:-
Deaths Jun 1851 (>99%) Taylor Charlotte Elizabeth Cockermouth 25 81
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:50 |
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Dinah 1871
Name: Dinah B Davis Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Bolton Davis Gender: Female Where born: Coughton Quay, Northumberland, England Civil parish: Earsdon Ecclesiastical parish: Earsdon Town: Blyth County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Blyth ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 25 Piece: 5132 Folio: 52 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Bolton Davis 34 born: Camberland, Warkington Dinah B Davis 23 Mary A Davis 2 Bolton Davis 9 Months
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 12:57 |
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Could possibly be Hannah Jane in 1861:-
Name: Jane Taylor Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Lamesley County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address: Allerdean House
Occupation: House Servant Registration district: Chester Le Street Sub-registration district: Harraton ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 14 Piece: 3763 Folio: 49 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age William Young 24 Susanna Stokoe Young 23 Jane Taylor 20
Possible marriage? Births Jun 1870 (>99%) Bohills George Belford 10b 349 Clark Adam Belford 10b 349 Clark Ellen Belford 10b 349 Fox Barbara Belford 10b 349 Kerss Peter Belford 10b 349 Knox Isabella Kerr Belford 10b 349 Spratt James Belford 10b 349 <<<< Taylor Hannah Jane Belford 10b 349 Wood Alice Belford 10b 349 Woodcock Ann Richardson Belford 10b 349
The district Belford spans the boundaries of the counties of Co. Durham and Northumberland
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Potty
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16 Sep 2011 12:59 |
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Robert's second name is Smith. Could Mary Ann nee Smith have died and Thomas remarried to Mary Ann Brown?
Barbara, do you have the Dinah's birth cert?
Danial on the 1851 is on the image as son although all the sons where originally listed in the female column.
No birth showing for a Daniel Brown Taylor except the 1854 one.
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 13:08 |
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1891???
Name: Hannah Jane Mawson Age: 49 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Gateshead Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Durham Country: England Street Address:
Occupation: Seamstress
Condition as to marriage: Widow Registration district: Gateshead Sub-registration district: Gateshead ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4180 Folio: 118 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age Hannah Jane Mawson 49 Hannah Mawson 6 born: Blyth, Northumberland (age could be 16) Esther Mary Mawson 4
Thomas Taylor 82 - (b 1809) born: Bolton, Cumberland
William Jibson 30
? Births Jun 1874 Mawson Hannah Jane Tynemouth 10b 243
Births Sep 1888 (>99%) MAUGHAN Esther Mary Auckland 10a 21_
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 13:21 |
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I don't think Danial exists, looks to be a mistranscription of Dinah!
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Catherine
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16 Sep 2011 13:23 |
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Hannah in 1881
Name: Hannah J. Mawson Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Mawson Gender: Female Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Cowpen County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: Gas Row Condition as to marriage: Married
Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Blyth ED, institution, or vessel: 7c Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 5092 Folio: 71 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age John Mawson 45 - born: Laise Head, Durham Hannah J. Mawson 39 John W. Mawson 20 - Son born: Oakenshaw, Durham Hannah J. Mawson 6
EDIT:- 1871 Name: Maunah Mawson Age: 29 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Mawson Gender: Female Where born: Kikengham, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Horton Town: Waterloo County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Tynemouth Sub-registration district: Blyth ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Household schedule number: 336 Piece: 5133 Folio: 75 Page Number: 65 Household Members: Name Age John Mawson 35 Maunah Mawson 29 Claylotte Mawson 12 John W Mawson 11 Mary A Mawson 2 - born: Cowpen, Collery North ND
Deaths Mar 1877 (>99%) MAWSON Mary Ann T 7 Tynemouth 10b 147
1861 Name: Hannah Mawson Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: John Mawson Gender: Female Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England Civil parish: Mickley County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Hexham Sub-registration district: Bywell ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 128 Piece: 3857 Folio: 93 Page Number: 28 Household Members: Name Age John Mawson 25 - Coal Miner Hannah Mawson 19 Charlotta Mawson 2 John W Mawson 10 MO
...............so other 1861 looks to be incorrect!
Marriages Jun 1858 (>99%) Clark Margery Durham 10a 301 <<<< Mawson John Durham 10a 301 <<<< Taylor Hannah Durham 10a 301 Wilson John Durham 10a 301
Births Mar 1859 (>99%) MAWSON Charlotte Elizabeth Durham 10a 255
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Barbara
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16 Sep 2011 13:44 |
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Thanks for all info. I am wondering now if Thomas married a Brown and a Smith hence Dinah and Daniel being Brown Taylor According to a member of the families tree I got their names off there is a Daniel born 1849 but it looks like a mistake and it has been Dinah. Maybe it wasn't clearly written on whatever they were looking at Thanks very much and any info on the others would be great as well Barbara
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Barbara
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16 Sep 2011 14:15 |
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I am going to delete Daniel as I just looked at a cousin's tree and he doesn't have Daniel. John Mawson is right as that has been added to his tree. Joseph Taylor born abt 1835 married Mary Plewes known as Turnbull. She was Turnbull when she married Joseph and widow of John Turnbull. John, Isaac, Edward, George, Barbara and Jane were her children to John Turnbull. As she was 'known' as Turnbull maybe she wasn't actually married to John and just used his name Barbara
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