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William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 17:38

Thanks everyone for your help. I've still got a few questions left to be answered but with all your help I think I'll be able to track it all down eventually.
All grateful for any help, and not ashamed to say so.

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 17:38

Thanks everyone for your help. I've still got a few questions left to be answered but with all your help I think I'll be able to track it all down eventually.
All grateful for any help, and not ashamed to say so.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Sep 2011 14:55

Maybe linked...?

Births Dec 1913
Monkman Henry F ...Westlake ...Southwark 1d 24

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Births Sep 1918
Monkman Frank ...Westlake ...Lambeth 1d 325


Gwyn

Dea

Dea Report 10 Sep 2011 14:51

Not sure it helps any, but following on from Gwyn's above post ??


MONKMAN, John Henry Head Married M 45 1866 Goods Porter Yorkshire Hull VIEW
MONKMAN, Minnie Cowley Wife Married 3 years F 32 1879 Charwoman London Clerkenwell VIEW
EVANS, William Arthur Stepson Single M 9 1902 London Southwark VIEW
MONKMAN, Constance Maud Daughter Single F 6 1905 London Southwark VIEW
MONKMAN, Winnifred Daughter Single F 1 1910 London Southwark VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1752 Reference:
RG14PN1752 RG78PN61 RD23 SD1 ED3 SN195

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Christchurch and St Saviour Southwark Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
St Saviour Southwark

Address:
15 Burghley Buildings Canvey Street Southwark S E County:
London


Dea x

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:50

Yes, Joseph, I saw the 1901 where it says Derbyshire, but I've traced all his family back to Suffolk Sudbury so it would appear to be a mistake on someones part. Thanks for your diligence anyway.

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:42

Thanks everyone, seems there's a story here I guess. I've just got to link it back to how she is a granddaughter to the 1911 situation. My GR is on a go-slow today so I'm having a job to check things out.
I'm very grateful for all your efforts.

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:42

Thanks everyone, seems there's a story here I guess. I've just got to link it back to how she is a granddaughter to the 1911 situation. My GR is on a go-slow today so I'm having a job to check things out.
I'm very grateful for all your efforts.

Joseph

Joseph Report 10 Sep 2011 14:42

In 1901 Census the Original shows

George born Sudbury DERBYSHIRE

Minnie AGED 47 Born Hook HAMPSHIRE

91, Ponsonby Buildings, Christchurch Southwark
SADLER, George Head Widower M 50 1851 Printer Compositor Sudbury Derbyshire
BENNETT, Minnie Cousin Widow F 47 1854 Cook (Domestic) Hook Hampshire

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Sep 2011 14:37

Births Sep 1879

Westlake Minnie Cowley ...Holborn 1b 742

Name: Minnie Cowley Westlake ....born 8 August 1879
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1879
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1879
Mother's Name: Mary Jane Westlake ...of 12 Compton Buildings
Parish or Poor Law Union: Clerkenwell St James
Borough: Islington


No father recorded.

Gwyn

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Sep 2011 14:27

Bessie Westlake
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1901 —Queen Charlottes Hos, London
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Clerkenwell, London, Middlesex, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Clerkenwell, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Bessie Westlake
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 0
relationship to head of household: Visitor
birthplace: Queen Charlottes Hos, London
record type: Household
registration district: Holborn
sub-district: Amwell
ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
civil parish: Clerkenwell
county: London, Middlesex

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Sep 2011 14:26

This marriage is interesting.
One of the witnesses is a Minnie SADLER

Name: Minnie Cowley Westlake ....8 Edward Street.
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Spouse Name: John Henry Monkman ...labourer, ..51 Ponsonby Buildings
Spouse Age: 43
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 14 Oct 1907
Parish: Christ Church
County: Surrey
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Henry Westlake ....( dec'd) seaman
Spouse Father Name: Charles Fernley Monkman ...(dec'd)..compositer )


Other witness is (I think ) Henry BRUNTON

Dea

Dea Report 10 Sep 2011 14:20

Let's start with this:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Bessie Annie Westlake Name: Bessie Annie Westlake
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1900
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1900
Mother's Name: Minnie Westlake
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mark, Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster

Dea x

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 10 Sep 2011 14:20

Bessie Westlake
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth: 1901 —Queen Charlottes Hos, London
residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Clerkenwell, London, Middlesex, England
census: 31 Mar 1901 —Clerkenwell, London, Middlesex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Bessie Westlake
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Female
age: 0
relationship to head of household: Visitor
birthplace: Queen Charlottes Hos, London
record type: Household
registration district: Holborn
sub-district: Amwell
ecclesiastical parish: St Silas
civil parish: Clerkenwell
county: London, Middlesex

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 10 Sep 2011 14:18

????????????????

Name: Bessie Annie Westlake
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1900
Baptism Date: 7 Jun 1900
Mother's Name: Minnie Westlake
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Mark, Marylebone Road
Borough: Westminster

No father shown

Gwyn

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:11

PLUS - I've found an entry via GR for births A/M/J quarter 1900 - Vol1a 557- Marylebone, London for a Bessie Westlake

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:11

PLUS - I've found an entry via GR for births A/M/J quarter 1900 - Vol1a 557- Marylebone, London for a Bessie Westlake

William

William Report 10 Sep 2011 14:07

I've hit a brick wall and I don't have the know-how/facilities to follow it through.
I'm looking for the mother/parents of Bessie Westlake b1900, Islington, possibly 1/6/1900 at Islington. 1901 census gives her as a 'visitor' aged 10months with the Edwards family (Chas Edwards 58 b Clerkenwell) at 42 Penton St, Clerkenwell.
The 1911 she is with grandparents George & Minnie Sadler at 15 Brunswick St Southwark. I've traced these two back to 1901 and they are given as Geo. Sadler wid 50, b Sudbury Suffolk & Minnie Bennett widow & cousin 59, b Hook Surrey.
I've been able to trace Geo back through each census but he appears to be single and lived at times with his cousin Geo. Albury in Southwark & go right back to 1841 & his grandfather in Sudbury. I can't seem to trace Minnie Bennett so I have no idea how Bessie Westlake fits into this situation, given that Geo Sadler doesn't seem to have had a daughter!
Any help would be most gratefully received.