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I have come to a full stop with Elizabeth Bull who Married a William Gosling in
2/4 1883 In Gravesend Kent. I have found an Elizabeth Bull in the 1871 census living at her uncles and in the 1881 census there is an Elizabeth Bull who is a scullery maid at a schoolin kent . This leads me to think that she must have been orphaned and therefore I'm not sure how to find out about her parents etc. I have also looked at other peoples trees but they don't seem to have an Elizabeth Bull with the right birth date. Help

You could send for the marriage cert, which may show a fathers name.

Annx

Yes that is a thought. I think I was assuming that there would be no Father as he had obviously died a long time ago.

Alison............how did you arrive at the birth year?

Groom's Name: William Robert Gosling
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Bull
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 10 Apr 1883
Marriage Place: Swanscombe, Kent, England
Groom's Father's Name: Gosling Robert
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: George Frederick Bull
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04439-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1473687
Reference Number: P66 131


Is this the marriage???


Dee x

Yes Thank you very much for the marriage information.
Ann the date of birth seemed to be the best fit from information from the census and death record.

Her birth??

Name: Elizabeth Bull
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Nov 1861
Baptism/Christening Place: Swanscombe, Kent, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: George Frederick Bull
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Rebecca Sarah
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I07734-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1473687
Reference Number: p 50 400

For ref Dee



census - household transcription
Person: GOSLING, Elizabeth
Address: 19 Park Avenue Northfleet Kent


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Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
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GOSLING, Rob W Head Married M 47 1864 Bricklayer Northfleet Kent VIEW
GOSLING, Elizabeth Wife Married F 48 1863 Gravesend Kent VIEW
GOSLING, Anne Daughter Single F 16 1895 School Northfleet Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3841 Reference:
RG14PN3841 RG78PN146 RD45 SD1 ED8 SN108

Registration District:
Strood Sub District:
Northfleet Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Northfleet

Address:
19 Park Avenue Northfleet Kent County:
Kent

Wow!! Dee how do you do it!
Does it mean her mums surname is Sarah !

Thanks
Ali x

1871 England Census
about Geo Fredk Bull Name: Geo Fredk Bull
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca Sarah Bull
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Kent, England
Civil parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
Town: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 358
Piece: 887
Folio: 61
Page Number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Fredk Bull 36
Rebecca Sarah Bull 34
Geo Henry Bull 12
Daniel Bull 7
James Jane 45

1891 different birthplace



GOSTLING, Wm R Head Married M 31 1860 Bricklayer
Northfleet
Kent VIEW
GOSTLING, Elizabeth Wife Married F 29 1862
Northfleet
Kent VIEW
GOSTLING, Wm R Son M 7 1884 Scholar
Northfleet
Kent VIEW
GOSTLING, Elizabeth E Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar
Swanscombe
Kent VIEW
GOSTLING, Mabel G Daughter F 2 1889
Swanscombe
Kent VIEW
GOSTLING, Ethel S Daughter F 0 (7M) 1891
Swanscombe
Kent VIEW

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RG number:
RG12 Piece:
643 Folio:
40 Page:
75

Registration District:
Dartford Sub District:
Dartford Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Peter & St Paul Swanscombe

Civil Parish:
Swanscombe Municipal Borough:
Address:
1, Castle Street, Swanscombe County:
Kent

1881 England Census
about George H. Bull Name: George H. Bull
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rebecca S. Bull
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Botany Bay Eagle Place
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 868
Folio: 30
Page Number: 54
Household Members: Name Age
George H. Bull 48
Rebecca S. Bull 46
George Henry Bull 21
Dainett Bull 17
John Peard 26
William Smith 40


Hi,

No her mum's first names were Rebecca Sarah.

1861 England Census
about George Poull Name: George Poull
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Poull
Gender: Male
Where born: Stone, Kent, England

Civil parish: Swanscombe
Ecclesiastical parish: Swanscombe
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 214
Piece: 468
Folio: 157
Page Number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
George Poull 27
Sarah Poull 25
Ellen Bull 3
George Bull 1
James Allen 19

After finding the 1861 census I wonder about this marriage;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1858 (>99%)
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>>>>>>>>Bull George Gravesend 2a 430
Johnson William Gravesend 2a 430
>>>>>>>>>>Law Sarah Gravesend 2a 430
Wandslet Amelia Louisa Gravesend 2a 430

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Groom's Name: George Frederick Bull
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Sarah Pinson
Bride's Birth Date: 1836
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 20
Marriage Date: 10 Aug 1856
Marriage Place: Stone-Near-Dartford, Kent, England
Groom's Father's Name: Daniel Bull
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Henry Pinson
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I04689-1
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1473680
Reference Number: item 1 p 42

safc........... good find!!

And the 1871 census for Elizabeth is with this Aunt and Uncle;

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1852 (>99%)
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Haseman Jesse Dartford 2a 308
Pinson Mary Ann Dartford 2a 308



That's down to safc marriage find!!

Dee x

The marriages and baptism records are available for free at Family Search, have a play with the site Ali to get use to it and you'll never be without it again.

Thank you all very much
Ali

Elizabeth Bull was baptised at the Parish Church of St.Peter and St. Paul, Swanscombe on the 10th. November 1861. She had been born in Milton Street, Swanscombe. In the church register her parents are shown as George Frederick and Rebecca Sarah Bull. The register shows that George Bull was a labourer.
She married William Robert Gosling at the same church on the 10th. April 1883. The register shows that William's father Robert was a publican but was deceased by the time of the marriage. The 1881 Census shows that she was working at Bowmans Lodge, Dartford Heath as a servant