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Hello,

I'm trying to find my Great grandmothers parents, it is a little difficult as little is known about them and nothing was ever mentioned, other than she was given away at some point, her mother was a Landlady in March, Cambs and she may have a brother named joe/joseph.

My G-Grandmother was born 1908, Bertha Edna Whitehead, but was registared Bertha Edna W. Granger, alo married under this name but commonly known as Edna granger.

I have her birth certificate,she was born in March Cambs, her father is abscent but her mothers name is mentioned, ive checked the 1891 census and her mother Sarah Jane appears with her family (if it is my ansestors). I beleive so there is a relative living in the house named bertha, which was common to name children after siblings.

Ive checked the recent 1911 census for Bertha, with the various combanation of names, and confirmed she was living as a boarder with another family, still in March, Cambs.

As her father is unknown other than the last name, ive checked the census for a Whitehead living in the camberudge area in all census's and the only name that could be related to it all is David Whitehead, 1885, he was living as a boarder with others with a family in March, Cambs.

in the BMD records i found a joseph Granger born c1910, with a mothers maiden name as Granger.

this is what i have found out so far, but does anyone else know of how else i can track down her father, of how her mother lived in later life, i.e if she did marry or have any more children? or if there are records that confirm my G.grandmas fathers.

Thanks

Thomas

This must be the Joseph you mean:

Births Dec 1912
Granger Joseph H Granger N.Witchford 3b 890

Quite a puzzler this one. Is there an address on the birth cert? Not quite sure how she was born Whitehead but registered Granger?

Jan

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

I can only see two adresses:

Bertha: Church Street, march
Sarah J: whitehard, broad street, March.

We persume that Sarah wasnt married, but gave bertha the whitehead named then later added granger, really confusing :-S

Do you mean 1912 for the birth of Joseph Granger, as mother's maiden name does not show on free bmd in 1910?
Are you going to gamble that Sarah is the mother again and buy the certificate?
Sorry, do not understand how she was born as Bertha Edna Whitehead if she was registered as Granger.
When was Sarah Jane born?
Thanks

Yes, thats the joseph, I think i may have to buy the birth certificate :(

We persume that Bertha was born out of wed lock.

Sarah Jane was born in Stretham

Patchem, you are obviously thinking the same as me. 'Born as' means 'registered as' to me! I do not think she was registered twice.
jan

Ive checked th Marrage records and her name has come up as Bertha E W Granger

?
Joseph Henry Granger
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1912
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1970
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Newham
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 5e
Page: 1874

Have you found Sarah in 1911?

Have you got her marriage cert, just in case she has named her father?
Jan

CAMDEX- Births Index- WHITEHEAD, Bertha (1908)

Surname: WHITEHEAD

Forename: Bertha


Middle Initial: E

Year of Birth: 1908

Reference: 338/MAR37/358/2

District: Fenland (the Registration District in which the birth took place)

Wonder if this is Bertha and why Grainger was added

Vera

Hello,,

No, for some reason i cant fi d Sarah j in the 1911 census.

Ive ordered the marrage sertifcates and its on its way.

Vera, does the search you did say which quater she was born? the one im looking for was born in october.

Thanks for your help.

Is this the birth certificate which you have please?

Name: Bertha Edna W Granger
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1908
Registration district: North Witchford
Inferred County: Cambridgeshire
Volume: 3b
Page: 480

If so what is her mother's full name on the certificate please? It looks as though Whitehead is a middle name?

Yes, Thats the Birth Certificate, her mothers full name is Sarah Jane Granger.

Granger does apperas in the name section of the birth certificate for Bertha.

I might be going off at a tangent here but do you know whne Bertha's mother died please?

Could this be her marrying in 1917?

Marriages Sep 1917

Granger Sarah J Titmarsh Downham 4b 627
Titmarsh James W Granger Downham 4b 627



and her death?

Name: Sarah J Titmarsh
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1958
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Downham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 4b
Page: 428



The above Sarah appears to have the same birth year as the Sarah that you have found on earlier census.

i.e this one?

1891

Name: Sarah J Granger
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Joseph Granger
Mother's name: Sarah J Granger
Gender: Female
Where born: Streatham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: March
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address: The Causeway


Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1301
Folio: 156
Page Number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Granger 47 Ag. Lab
Sarah J Granger 43
George Granger 12
Sarah J Granger 8
Mary E Granger 5
Bertha E Granger 5/12


The same Sarah in 1901 working as a Servant to the Bulter family who were also living at The Causeway in 1891. (Her parents are also still living at The Causeway in 1901)

Name: Sarah J Granger
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Stretham, Cambridgeshire, England

Civil parish: March
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England

Street Address: The Causeway

Occupation: Domestic Servant


Registration district: North Witchford
Sub-registration district: March
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1551
Folio: 136
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
John Butler 41
Alice Butler 40
William Butler 12
Arthur H Butler 8
Daisy Butler 7
Harold Butler 4
Evelyn Grace Butler 3
May Butler 1
Sarah J Granger 18

Sorry - looking again at the 1901 it is a William Granger and his family living at The Causeway in 1901 and he also has a daughter Bertha but she is aged 8 years.

There seems to be one child born in 1923 from that Titmarsh / Granger marriage.

Name: Albert E Titmarsh
Mother's Maiden Surname: Granger
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1923
Registration district: Downham
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume Number: 4b
Page Number: 523


And possibly?

Name: Albert Edward Titmarsh
Birth Date: 1 May 1923
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Kings Lynn
Inferred County: Norfolk
Volume: 10
Page: 1617

Thanks,

I have her birth certificate and i guess that she must have married an titmarsh.

If i am to look for her children would u search for joseph granger or joseph titmarch?

Looks like Srah Jane's mother is still in the same area until her death in 1928. This looks like her in 1911

HOUSEHOLD GRANGER SARAH F 1843 68 North Witchford Cambridgeshire

Living with these people?

HOUSEHOLD GRANGER FRED M 1909 2 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER HERBERT WILLIAM M 1896 15 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER IDA F 1876 35 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER TOM M 1871 40 North Witchford Cambridgeshire
HOUSEHOLD GRANGER WILLIAM M 1869 42 North Witchford Cambridgeshire


Who was Bertha with in 1911 please?

There is no Joseph Titmarsh in the correct area - so it looks like that Joseph Granger birth that has already been posted.