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hi all
does anyone visit the bradford archives who is willing to do a look up for me or know of a site i could use.
I am trying to trace my great grandfathers parents. he was william gath born 1863 in bradford, his father is named on his birth cert as henry gath and his mother mary cantrell.
i have found a marriage for henry to mary but her name is down as catwell..I cannot find any census records for henry but have mary in 1861 and 1871 with her children william and alice born 1866. she also had another child susannah 1i 1873 but states she is a widow in 1871 census. the adress's for her are 23 fitzgerald street and wilfried street. doea anyone know what area that is and what the local church would be??
all information gladly received as seem to have hit yet another brick wall
thanks :-D

This marriage?
Henry Gath
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1862
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume Number: 9b
Page Number: 250

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Henry Gath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1870
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 102

Mistranscription is common...............the woman's surname is not wildly different

The Ecclesiastical district is recorded on the census image........

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1861 England Census about Henry Gath
Name: Henry Gath
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Brother
Mother's name: Alice Gath
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Manningham
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 25 Montgomery St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Horton
ED, institution, or vessel: 52
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Piece: 3335
Folio: 100
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
William Woodhead 30
Elizabeth Woodhead 26
Walter Woodhead 3
John H Woodhead 1
Alice Gath 51
Henry Gath 18 jobber at worsted mill
Abraham Gath 16
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1851 England Census
Henry Gath
Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son Mother's name: Alice Gath
Gender: M (Male) Where born: Thornton, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradford Ecclesiastical parish: Manningham St Jude
Town: Bradford County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford West End
ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Household schedule number: 179 Piece: 2308 Folio: 657 Page Number: 47

Alice Gath 40
Elizabeth Gath 16
Joseph Gath 14
Henry Gath 8
Abram Gath 6

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2308; Folio: 657; Page: 47; GSU roll: 87520-87521.

Not sure but both a Henry and Abram baptised together here
Henry Gath
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Manningham, York, England
parents: John Gath, Alice

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Henry Gath
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 27 May 1855
baptism/christening place: St. Jude, Manningham, York, England
father's name: John Gath
mother's name: Alice
indexing project (batch) number: I02930-4
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 6358497

1841 England Census
Alice Garth
Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradford Hundred: Morley County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England
Registration district: Bradford Sub-registration district: Bradford West End
Piece: 1294 Book: 6 Folio: 40 Page Number: 27

Alice Garth 30
Elizabeth Garth 5
Joseph Garth 4
Ann Garth 1

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1294; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Bradford; County: Yorkshire; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 40; Page: 27; Line: 4; GSU roll: 464254.

hi all
i have looked at the 1851 and 1861 census and could be the one
and the bapts with abram looks good and the death all seem to tie in together. i wish I could find mary after1891 she was with susannah still at wilfried street but nothing after that. more important to me is who her parents were as after looking further there seems to be 2 mary,s one 1839 and one 1840 but niot one for 1843 which would be about the right age. and also her place of birth (ireland or bradford). I will have to yet again get the marriage cert, I seem to have to get 2 or 3 every generation I go back!! costing a fortune .
but thanks for all your help it at least confirms some of the threads I have. is there a site for bradford do you know of, . just for information sake there is a fantastic site for sheffield (sheffield indexers and its FREEEE)
many thanks.
BTW is there a board on here where people can share certificates that they have and other people could use or find helpful?? :-)

#I think you can add details of certs as a postem on free bmd ?

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thanks for that Lindsey*
and thanks again to patchem and Flick
xxxxxx <3 <3 <3 :-D

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1901 England Census about Mary Gath
Name: Mary Gath
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Peter
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 56
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 240
Piece: 4153
Folio: 121
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Gath 60
Susannah Gath 28

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Mary Gath
Name: Mary Gath
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1902
Age at Death: 58
Registration district: Bradford
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 39 (click to see others on page)

To 'share' certs...........

http://www.bmdshare.com/


You have to register.....but it's free to use

I've pulled up the 1855 Manningham baptism

Henry Gath born 5 April 1842
Abraham born 29 Nov 1844

Address Midgley Yard

Parents John and Alice
Father dead

Julie,

You asked about websites...the best for all of West Yorks at present is Ancestry. If you live near one of the Mormon Church's Family History Centres, they seem to all have it on a free to use basis, some public libraries and family history societies also have it. Ancestry usually offer a free trial, so you could try it out and see if it's for you, just if you decide it isn't, don't forget to cancel before the end of the trial.

Best wishes

Kim

Hull, East Yorks

That's interesting Kim ,I wonder if the late baptisms were done in order to qualify for parish relief or schooling ?

Could well be that, Lindsey, or maybe there was an outbreak of some infectious disease, so she decided to get it done in case they died.

I've not been able to find the Gath marriages but they could be mistranscribed: Goth, Guth, Gatt, Gott etc

Best wishes

Kim

I dont know why genes didnt let me know there were some more replies, arent they supposed to???
so sorry its late getting back to yu all but have only just seen em!!
I have a sus to ancestry but they arent much help, I have better info on here, also the 1911 census on there is just the summary no details or images at all , so a bit rubish really, yes i have seen the guths guts gots and even goths, although I have found john and alice as Garth, henry's parents.
Mary doesnt seem to know where she was born Bradfor or Ireland :-S :-S
.thanks for help <3 <3 julie

No, Julie, GR do not notify you of replies on your thread.......you always have to check back...........

It is common for people born in Ireland to hide the fact, and give their place of birth as the town in which they landed when they crossed over.

You commonly find them admitting to being Irish when they have been here for about 20 years and are more relaxed about it.,

My Kellys kept changing their minds between Co Down and Manchester. It doesn't help!

Meg

thanks all <3