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PricklyHolly
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13 Aug 2011 21:54 |
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Hi Helen
For your own peace of mind regarding the Sarah/Elizabeth confusion, perhaps the birth certificate of one of the other siblings will put your mind at rest.
Keep us posted!
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Helen
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13 Aug 2011 13:33 |
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Thank you everyone for your help... xxx I have just been able to get on to the internet again (as I do not have the internet at home).
Please correct me if I am wrong but it seems that everything points to Elizabeth and Sarah Walker being the same person and that the informant got Sarah's forename wrong. If that is the case do you think that it is prudent to order the marriage certificate for William Walker and Sarah Petheric 1865 or should i look for an earlier sibling of my Francis eg Emily 1866, Rosa 1870 Bessie 1873 William 1876 or John 1882 all born silverton that i believe that i have the birth references for? Will that make any difference? Thank you for looking at my request. Helen
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PricklyHolly
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10 Aug 2011 13:33 |
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You say......
."1891 census ... might help clarify if 'Elizabeth' has been changed back to Sarah."
But "Elizabeth" does not appear on any of the census.
1891 England Census about Frank Walker Name: Frank Walker Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Mother's name: Sarah Walker Gender: Male Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton Ecclesiastical parish: Silverton Town: Silverton County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1762 Folio: 66 Page Number: 20 Household Members: Name Age Sarah Walker 50 (Widow) Samuel Walker 53 (Brother) Frank Walker 11 John Walker 8
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PricklyHolly
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10 Aug 2011 13:26 |
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1891 England Census about Bessie Walker Name: Bessie Walker Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relation: Servant Gender: Female Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton Ecclesiastical parish: Silverton Town: Silverton County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1762 Folio: 67 Page Number: 21 Household Members: Name Age Robert Frost 31 Patience Frost 27 Alice M Frost 2 Sarah A Baner 35 Lucy Mary 41 Bessie Walker 14 William Ellis 20 Charles Wood 19 John Ellis 15
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Cheryl
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10 Aug 2011 12:56 |
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Hi
This could be Williams Death?
Deaths Jun 1886 Walker William 38 Tiverton 5b 299
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Cheryl
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10 Aug 2011 12:44 |
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Hi
Found is on the 1841 Census:
Notice their is a Sarah and Elizabeth Pedrick Sisters?
Sarah Pedrick Age: 6 MO Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840 Gender: Female Where born: Devon, England Civil parish: Stokenham Hundred: Coleridge County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
View image Registration district: Kingsbridge Sub-registration district: Stokenham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 212 Book: 17 Folio: 3 Page Number: 1 Household Members: Name Age John Pedrick 35 Jemima Pedrick 35 John Pedrick 15 Nathaniel Pedrick 14 Philip Pedrick 10 George Pedrick 7 Elizabeth Pedrick 6 Jemima Pedrick 5 Sarah Pedrick 6 MO
Could Sarah and Elizabeth have been sisters that both had children with William?
Cheryl x
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Helen
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10 Aug 2011 12:43 |
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1891 census ... might help clarify if 'Elizabeth' has been changed back to Sarah.
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Potty
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10 Aug 2011 12:40 |
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Was Elizabeth Mills related to Sarah? I wonder if the Registrar confused the two women's first names.
I have a birth cert which I am almost sure is the correct one but the father's name is wrong. I feel that when the Registrar asked for father's name, the mother gave her father's name but as I cannot trace her parents I cannot confirm it.
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PricklyHolly
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10 Aug 2011 12:40 |
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It would seem it was error on the part of Elizabeth, the informant present at Francis birth.
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brummiejan
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10 Aug 2011 12:34 |
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Is this them?
1871 England Census
Name: Sarah Walker Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Walker Gender: Female Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton
William Walker 24 Where born: Hemyock, Devon, England Sarah Walker 30 Emily Walker 4 Rose Jane Walker 10 Months
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Cheryl
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10 Aug 2011 12:34 |
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Hi
1871:
Sarah Walker Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: William Walker Gender: Female Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 72 Piece: 2165 Folio: 56 Page Number: 12 Household Members:
Name Age William Walker 24 Sarah Walker 30 Emily Walker 4 Rose Jane Walker 10 Months
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Helen
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10 Aug 2011 12:30 |
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If someone can find this family in the 1871 census it may record if the mother's name is Sarah.
This also may be an indication that Sarah has died between census and Elizabeth has taken her place ... not necessarily married to William.
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PricklyHolly
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10 Aug 2011 12:30 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: WALKER, Sarah Address: King Street Silverton Near Exeter WALKER, Sarah Head Widow F 70 1841 Silverton Devon VIEW WALKER, John Son Single M 28 1883 Labourer At Paper Mills Silverton Devon VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13216 Reference: RG14PN13216 RG78PN766 RD282 SD1 ED7 SN48 Registration District: Tiverton Sub District: Silverton Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Silverton Address: King Street Silverton Near Exeter County: Devonshire
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brummiejan
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10 Aug 2011 12:26 |
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Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%) Petheric Sarah Tiverton 5b 751 Pridham Mary Ann Tiverton 5B 751 Vicary James Tiverton 5b 751 Walker William Tiverton 5b 751
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brummiejan
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10 Aug 2011 12:26 |
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1901 as found by Ann. Interesting! Maybe 'Elizabeth' was an error?
1901 England Census
Name: Francis Walker Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Mother's name: Sarah Walker Gender: Male Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Devon
Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Sarah Walker 60 Francis Walker 22 John Walker 18 Samuel Walker 63
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10 Aug 2011 12:24 |
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Perhaps the clue is the informant certificates are only as good as the information given at the time, ?
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Helen
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10 Aug 2011 12:22 |
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Thank you for the above census details. I am trying to find Francis walkers mother Elizabeth nee Pedrick. Does anyone think that Sarah and Elizabeth are the same people? I can't find a death (with an age) for Elizabeth Walker in Silverton from 1879-1881 either. Thank you for your help. Helen
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AnnCardiff
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10 Aug 2011 12:15 |
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Francis Walker England and Wales Census, 1901 birth: 1879 —Silverton, Devonshire residence: 31 Mar 1901 —Silverton, Devonshire, England census: 31 Mar 1901 —Silverton, Devonshire, England record title: England and Wales Census, 1901 name: Francis Walker event: Census event date: 31 Mar 1901 gender: Male age: 22 relationship to head of household: Son birthplace: Silverton, Devonshire record type: Household registration district: Tiverton sub-district: Silverton ecclesiastical parish: St Mary civil parish: Silverton county: Devonshire
Frances Walker England and Wales Census, 1881 birth: 1879 —Silverton, Devon, England residence: 1881 —Silverton, Devonshire, England census: 1881 —Silverton, Devonshire, England parents: William Walker, Sarah Walker record title: England and Wales Census, 1881 name: Frances Walker age: 2 gender: Male birth year: 1879 birthplace: Silverton, Devon, England relationship to head of household: Son marital condition: Single address: Tiverton Road census place: Silverton, Devonshire, England record type: Household family history library film: 1341537 the national archives reference: RG11 piece/folio: 2232 / 72 page number:
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Helen
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10 Aug 2011 12:04 |
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I have just received a birth certificate for Francis Walker (boy) born 1879 Silverton Devon mother ELIZABETH Walker nee PEDRICK and father William Walker. Informant Elizabeth Mills present at the birth.
I am baffled about Elizabeth as I thought that she would be Sarah! This is the only family I can find which is right with Frances on the 1881 census, so where is Elizabeth?
1881 census Name: Frances Walker Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879 Relation: Son Father's name: William Walker Mother's name: Sarah Walker Gender: Male Where born: Silverton, Devon, England Civil parish: Silverton County/Island: Devon Country: England Street Address: Tiverton Road Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Tiverton Sub-registration district: Silverton ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 2232 Folio: 72 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age William Walker 34 Sarah Walker 41 Emily Walker 14 Rose Walker 11 Bessie Walker 7 William Walker 5 Frances Walker 2 William Pedrick 44 I can't find a marriage between William Walker and Elizabeth Pedrick either but I can between William and Sarah.... Record Sarah Petheric Jul-Aug-Sep 1865 Tiverton Devonshire William Walker Jul-Aug-Sep 1865 Tiverton Devonshire
I am at the library so I have not got alot of internet time but I will try to respond as soon as I am able.
Thank you for looking at my request, Helen
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