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Hi. i posted a thread on here a couple of days ago about searching for a burial and i hope you don`t think this a duplication but another question has come up. My greatgrandfather John Dyer died in 1919. The informant was A. B. HEAD ( the spelling seems clear) daughter, 68Pond Rd West Ham ( if your not supposed to put an address on here let me know and i will delete it) i cannot find out who the daughter is and who she married. in 1933 my grandmother married into the Dyer family and she was listed as a domestic servant living at the above adrress. My question is this. I have read on this site about electoral rolls.Is it possible to find out who lived at that address at those times to find find out who lived there? Any advice would be welcomed. Thanks for your time
nick

here's the address on 1911 census

Address: 68 Pond Road West Ham

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

HACKERMAN, Sydney Head Married M 25 1886 Tramway Motor Man London Stepney
HACKERMAN, Grace Wife Married F 21 1890 London Stepney

when and where was John Dyer born please?

do you have him on censuses?

Hllo Tempest. i have no known connection to Hackerman. John was born in Bridgwater, somerset in 1849. i have him on the 1911 in 5 pond road . His wife died there in 1935.. 1 also have him on 1901 and 1891 census. there are lots of children mentioned, but thats why i am a little stumped as to who the daughter is. They have been a little difficult at times to follow. as you will see on the 1911 cennsus severeal children have died

we need to place him first ,Is this him ?

Name: John Dyer
Birth Date: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1919
Age at Death: 69
Registration district: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 82

This is for info may or may not be her.

The only A B dyer I could find is Amelia Bertha born 1888 West Ham
she married in June quarter of 1910 but not to a Head but to John Thorn but an Amelia Thorn married William A Head in the December quarter of 1913 Romford district.

There is a death for John Thorn in the Decemebr quarter of 1910.

All found on freebmd.

are you sure about the 1911 address?

1911 census

Address: 24 Wakelin Road West Ham

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

DYER, John George Head Married 27 years M 62 1849 Navvy And General Labourer Bridgewater Somersetshire
DYER, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 48 1863 Kemsted Essex
DYER, John William Son Single M 19 1892 Skin Dyer Leytonstone Essex
DYER, Emily Rose Daughter Single F 16 1895 Confectionery Hand West Ham S Essex
DYER, Ester Daughter F 13 1898 West Ham S Essex
DYER, Edward Son M 11 1900 West Ham N Essex
MONK, Nell Visitor Single F 17 1894 Carton Weaver West Ham S Essex
MONK, James Visitor M 9 1902 West Ham S Essex

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Not finding a 5 Pond Road in 1911

5 Pond Road is uninhabited on 1911 enumerators list

Both addresses are still there on google maps streetview this area is now Stratford E 15

Iam very sorry. Wakelin rd is correct they went to pond road afterwards. John also appeard to middle names of George and William. he did have a daughter called Lliy born about 1888. maybe she could be Amelia. what do you think. it could make sense with the second marriage.

1901 census

Address: 33, Bethell Avenue, West Ham

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

DYER, George J Head Married M 52 1849 General Laborer Bridgwater Somersetshire
DYER, Sarah A Wife Married F 37 1864 Hemstead Essex
DYER, Alice M Daughter Single F 16 1885 Confectionery Worker Leyton Essex
DYER, Lily A Daughter Single F 13 1888 Leyton Essex
DYER, John G Son Single M 10 1891 Leytonstone Essex
DYER, Emily R Daughter Single F 7 1894 West Ham Essex
DYER, Ettie Daughter Single F 3 1898 West Ham Essex
DYER, Edward Son Single M 1 1900 Plaistow Essex

Yes the death details for John is correct

could this be him in 1901 known by his second name
1901
Name: George J Dyer
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah A Dyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgwatr, Dorset, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:33 Bethel avenue

Occupation:general labourer

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Plaistow
ED, institution, or vessel: 46
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 287
Piece: 1575
Folio: 61
Page Number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
George J Dyer 52
Sarah A Dyer 37
Alice M Dyer 16
Lily A Dyer 13
John G Dyer 10
Emily R Dyer 7
Eltie Dyer 3
Edward Dyer 1




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1575; Folio: 61; Page: 51.

possibly????

original looks like Mrs L Thorne

1911 census

Address: 47 Pond Road West Ham

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

THORN Head Widow F 23 1888 Leytonstone Essex
DYE, Alice Boarder Single F 18 1893 Layer On Printer London of Westminster

in the number of years married it says "under one"

no children listed to marriage on census

In 1891 i have found him in Ashlin road,West Ham.He marries in 1885 to sarah ann Stock. Before that he does not turn up until 1851 in Monmouthshire aged 2. its really what his family get up to in London after his death i liked to know but of course such as to who is living in 68 pond road.

1891
Name: John Dyer
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Dyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Bridgewater, Somerset, England

Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1314
Folio: 81
Page Number: 50
Household Members: Name Age
John Dyer 42
Sarah Dyer 27
Alice Dyer 7
Lily Dyer 3



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 1314; Folio 81; Page 50; GSU roll: 6096424.

not picking them up with a daughter Amelia

1891 census

Address: 8, Ashlin Road, West Ham, Stratford

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

DYER, John Head Married M 42 1849 Labourer Bridgewater Somersetshire
DYER, Sarah Wife Married F 27 1864 Hampstead Essex
DYER, Alice Daughter F 7 1884 Leyestone Essex
DYER, Lily Daughter F 3 1888 Leyestone Essex

I think Tempest and Joan may have found something. i might have end up tracing them to living relatives ,if any ( not that i know how to do that.

births of possible children of Amelia/ Lily and Mr Head

Name: HEAD, William H
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Dyer
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 156


Name: HEAD, Amelia E
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1916
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Dyer
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 201


Name: HEAD, William E
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1919
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Dyer
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 180


Name: HEAD, Leslie A
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1922
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Dyer
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 232


Name: HEAD, Elsie E
Registration District: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of Registration: 1924
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Mother's Maiden Name: Dyer
Volume No: 4A
Page No: 188