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blackduck

blackduck Report 26 Jul 2011 07:22

Hi

Could some kind person please have a look in the 1911 England Census for

Leslie Trewhella Norgrove b 28 Jun 1878 Birmingham

wife Elsie M Grigg

they married in Plymouth Devonshire in June 1910

Leslie died 31 May 1916 on board HMS Defence
wife Elsie was living at 10 Seymour Terrace Lipson Plymouth at the time.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 26 Jul 2011 07:27

possible

1911 census
Personal Information
Name Leslie Norgrove
Condition Married
Gender
Age 32
Estimated Year of Birth 1879
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Birmingham Warwick
Military Rank E R A 2th Class
Enumerator Information
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN34971 RD640 SD2 ED1 SN9999
Administrative County Royal Navy At Sea and In Ports Abroad
Registration District Royal Navy At Sea
Enumeration District 1

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 07:29


1911 census - household transcription
Person: NORGROVE, Leslie
Institution: Argyll, SHIP: ARGYLL, FIFTH CRUISER SQUADRON, GIBRALTAR
Military details: E R A 2th Class

NORGROVE, Leslie Married ? 32 1879 Birmingham Warwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34971 Reference:
RG14PN34971 RD640 SD2 ED1 SN9999

Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
1 Parish:

Address:
County:
Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 07:36

What year was Elsie born?

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Jul 2011 07:36

1911:
GRIGG, Lewis Husband Married
31 years M 54 1857 Brewer Labourer Kilkhampton Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
31 years F 53 1858 Black Torrington Devon VIEW
GRIGG, Josephine Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice To Dressmaking Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Edward Winston Son M 9 1902 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
>>>NORGROVE, Elsie May Visitor Married F 22 1889 Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13633 Reference:
RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3

Registration District:
Liskeard Sub District:
Liskeard Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Liskeard Borough

Address:
Maudlin Cottages Liskeard County:
Cornwall

Births Sep 1888 (>99%)
GRIGG Elsie May Liskeard 5c 50

Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%)
GRIGG Elsie May Plymouth 5b 470
Norgrove Leslie Tr__h_ll_ Plymouth 5b 470

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 26 Jul 2011 07:37

possible for his wife


1911 census
Address Maudlin Cottages Liskeard
Parish Liskeard Borough
Town Liskeard
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 4
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3
Administrative County Cornwall
Registration District Liskeard
Registration Sub District Liskeard
Enumeration District 8

Householder 1
Name Lewis Grigg
Relationship to Head of Household Husband
Condition / Years Married / 31 Years
Total Children Born Alive 10
Children Still Living 9
Children Who Have Died 1
Gender M
Age 54
Estimated Year of Birth 1857
Occupation Brewer Labourer
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Kilkhampton Cornwall

Householder 2
Name Mary Elizabeth Grigg
Relationship to Head of Household Wife
Condition / Years Married / 31 Years
Gender F
Age 53
Estimated Year of Birth 1858
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Black Torrington Devon

Householder 3
Name Josephine Grigg
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 15
Estimated Year of Birth 1896
Occupation Apprentice To Dressmaking
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall

Householder 4
Name Dorothy Grigg
Relationship to Head of Household Daughter
Gender F
Age 11
Estimated Year of Birth 1900
Occupation School
Employed Y
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall

Householder 5
Name Edward Winston Grigg
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Gender M
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1902
Occupation School
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall

Householder 6
Name Elsie May Norgrove
Relationship to Head of Household Visitor
Condition / Years Married / Years
Gender F
Age 22
Estimated Year of Birth 1889
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall


says she is married on census

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 07:40

Found her...........


1911 census - household transcription
Person: NORGROVE, Elsie May
Address: Maudlin Cottages Liskeard


GRIGG, Lewis Husband Married
31 years M 54 1857 Brewer Labourer Kilkhampton Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
31 years F 53 1858 Black Torrington Devon VIEW
GRIGG, Josephine Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice To Dressmaking Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
GRIGG, Edward Winston Son M 9 1902 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
NORGROVE, Elsie May Visitor Married F 22 1889 Liskeard Cornwall VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
13633 Reference:
RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3

Registration District:
Liskeard Sub District:
Liskeard Enumeration District:
8 Parish:
Liskeard Borough

Address:
Maudlin Cottages Liskeard County:
Cornwall
(10 children born to Lewis and Mary........9 living, 1 had died)

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 07:49

??

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Norgrove Thurstan J T Grigg Devonport 5b 569

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
NORGROVE Gladys M Grigg Cardiff 11a 944

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 07:56

Could this be his birth reg???


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Theophilus Leslie T Norgrove
Name: Theophilus Leslie T Norgrove
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879
Registration district: Aston
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 270



1881 England Census
about Theophilus L.J. Norgrove
Name: Theophilus L.J. Norgrove
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Son
Father's name: Theophilus E. Norgrove
Mother's name: Elizabeth A. Norgrove
Gender: Male
Where born: Bham, Warwickshire, England

Civil parish: Aston
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Grange Rd Wymeswold
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 76
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3025
Folio: 107
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Theophilus E. Norgrove 52
Elizabeth A. Norgrove 43
Mary Norgrove 24
John J. Norgrove 22
Elizabeth A. Norgrove 21
Minnie Norgrove 18
Joseph S. Norgrove 15
Clara Norgrove 13
Emily J. Norgrove 11
Florence Norgrove 8
Ethel Norgrove 6
Theophilus L.J. Norgrove 1



1871 England Census
about Joseph Nosgrove
Name: Joseph Nosgrove
[Joseph Norgrove]
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Father's name: Theophilus Nosgrove
Mother's name: Elizabeth A Nosgrove
Gender: Male
Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Civil parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Bordesley
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
Household Members:
Name Age
Theophilus Nosgrove 42
Elizabeth A Nosgrove 33
Mary Nosgrove 14
John T Nosgrove 12
Elizabeth A Nosgrove 10
Minnie Nosgrove 9
Joseph Nosgrove 5
Clara Nosgrove 3
Emily J Nosgrove 1
Elizabeth Rezwin 54 (Boarder)
Sarah A Davies 14 (Servant)



1861 England Census
about Theophilus C Korgrove
Name: Theophilus C Korgrove
[Theophilus C Norgrove]
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A Korgrove
Gender: Male
Where born: Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England

Civil parish: Aston
Town: Birmingham
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Deritend
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 156
Piece: 2171
Folio: 71
Page Number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Theophilus C Korgrove 32
Elizabeth A Korgrove 23
Mary Korgrove 4
John T Korgrove 2
Elizabeth A Korgrove 1

blackduck

blackduck Report 26 Jul 2011 07:57

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.

You have no idea how much this information means to me.

Leslie Trewhella Norgrove was born Theophilus Leslie Trewhella Norgrove and I have been searching for him since 2000.

I have him on 1881 Census with parents Theophilus Corban Norgrove and Elizabeth Ann Kegwin, but he disappeared after that.

Elizabeth died in 1881 and Theo took his four youngest daughters to Australia Clara b1867, Ethel b1869, Emily Jane b1869 and Florence b1872. I don't know when they arrived but it was after 1881 and before 1903 as they are on the 1903 Victorian Roll.

Theo Corban Norgrove & daughter Florence are buried in Kew Cemetery in Victoria Australia, Ethel married in Australia, Clara I can trace till 1909 in Vic then disappears, Emily Jane I can trace till 1914 in Vic then she disappears.

I found Leslie Norgrove's Naval death notice in ancestry when I was searching something else the name just intrigued me so I clicked on it, I found the marriage and now thanks to your wonderful help I'll be able to search and verify this information further.

Theophilus Leslie Trewhella Norgrove is my husbands great great uncle.

Again Thank you Thank you Thank you for your wonderful help.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 08:04

Well thats good news!!

Happy hunting!! x

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Jul 2011 08:06

Leslie's widow remarrying??

Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%)
Norgrove Elsie M Cornish Liskeard 5c 96
Cornish William B Norgrove Liskeard 5c 9_

Her death???

Name: Elsie M Cornish
Birth Date: abt 1888
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Plymouth
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 844

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 08:10

Elsie's parents marriage........

Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%)
GRIGG Lewis Holsworthy 5b 981
KNIGHT Mary Elizabeth Holsworthy 5b 981

blackduck

blackduck Report 26 Jul 2011 08:29

WOW Thank you again

All I have to do is check check and recheck all the information and order some more certificates. Yippee!! more money to spend,

and then (groan) try to find Theo/Leslie somewhere between 1881 Census and 1911 Census am I in for another 10 year fishing expedition, ah well keeps me occupied and out of mischief.

Anyone know where I might search to find a copy of his Naval records.

Thank you again everyone for your wonderful help

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 26 Jul 2011 08:52

Sorry I do not know the answer to your last question but it looks as if Leslie's son followed in his fathers footsteps and entered service with the Royal Navy:

Name: Thurston Joseph ??Hella Norgrode
[Thurston Joseph ??Hella Norgrove]
Medal or Award: RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal
Service Year: 1944-1963

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 09:13

Brother Joseph..........?


1911 census - household transcription
Person: NORGROVE, Joseph Corban
Institution: No 7 Company Army Service Corps, NO 7 COMPANY ARMY SERVICE CORPS, POTCHEFSTROOM, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA
Military details: Warrant Officer Army School Master

NORGROVE, Joseph Corban Married ? 45 1866 Birmingham Warwick VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34993 Reference:
RG14PN34993 RD641 SD18 ED13 SN9999

Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
13 Parish:

Address:
Cantonment Potchefstroom S A County:
Overseas military



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Joseph C Norgrove
Name: Joseph C Norgrove
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947
Age at Death: 80
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 1208

blackduck

blackduck Report 26 Jul 2011 09:31

WOW and WOW

I'm sure I need my glasses looked at, I've been looking and looking but not seeing

Thank you so much for all the information

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 09:36


British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Joseph Corban Norgrove
Name: Joseph Corban Norgrove
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Age at enlistment: 25
Birth Parish: Aston
Birth County: Warwickshire
Document Year: 1891
Regiment Name: Army School Master
Number of images: 16




British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
about Joseph Corban Norgrove
Name: Joseph Corban Norgrove
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Age at enlistment: 32
Birth Parish: Aston
Birth County: Warwickshire
Document Year: 1897
Regiment Name: Army School Master
Number of images: 2

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 09:41

Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%)
Girling Alfred James Wolverhampton 6b 884
Haycock Elizabeth Mary Wolverhampton 6b 884
Norgrove Joseph Corhan Wolverhampton 6b 884
Redman Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 884

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 26 Jul 2011 09:42


1911 census - household transcription
Person: NORGROVE, Elizabeth
Institution: No 7 Company Army Service Corps, NO 7 COMPANY ARMY SERVICE CORPS, POTCHEFSTROOM, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA
Military details:

NORGROVE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1868 Wolverhampton Staffs VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
34993 Reference:
RG14PN34993 RD641 SD18 ED13 SN9999

Registration District:
Sub District:
Enumeration District:
13 Parish:

Address:
Cantonment Potchefstroom S A County:
Overseas military



England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Elizabeth Norgrove
Name: Elizabeth Norgrove
Birth Date: abt 1865
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1947
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 775