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26 Jul 2011 07:22 |
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Hi
Could some kind person please have a look in the 1911 England Census for
Leslie Trewhella Norgrove b 28 Jun 1878 Birmingham
wife Elsie M Grigg
they married in Plymouth Devonshire in June 1910
Leslie died 31 May 1916 on board HMS Defence wife Elsie was living at 10 Seymour Terrace Lipson Plymouth at the time.
Any help would be appreciated.
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26 Jul 2011 07:27 |
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1911 census Personal Information Name Leslie Norgrove Condition Married Gender Age 32 Estimated Year of Birth 1879 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Birmingham Warwick Military Rank E R A 2th Class Enumerator Information Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN34971 RD640 SD2 ED1 SN9999 Administrative County Royal Navy At Sea and In Ports Abroad Registration District Royal Navy At Sea Enumeration District 1
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26 Jul 2011 07:29 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: NORGROVE, Leslie Institution: Argyll, SHIP: ARGYLL, FIFTH CRUISER SQUADRON, GIBRALTAR Military details: E R A 2th Class NORGROVE, Leslie Married ? 32 1879 Birmingham Warwick VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 34971 Reference: RG14PN34971 RD640 SD2 ED1 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 1 Parish: Address: County: Royal Navy at Sea and in ports abroad
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 07:36 |
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What year was Elsie born?
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Jonesey
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26 Jul 2011 07:36 |
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1911: GRIGG, Lewis Husband Married 31 years M 54 1857 Brewer Labourer Kilkhampton Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 31 years F 53 1858 Black Torrington Devon VIEW GRIGG, Josephine Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice To Dressmaking Liskeard Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Edward Winston Son M 9 1902 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW >>>NORGROVE, Elsie May Visitor Married F 22 1889 Liskeard Cornwall VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13633 Reference: RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3 Registration District: Liskeard Sub District: Liskeard Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Liskeard Borough Address: Maudlin Cottages Liskeard County: Cornwall
Births Sep 1888 (>99%) GRIGG Elsie May Liskeard 5c 50
Marriages Jun 1910 (>99%) GRIGG Elsie May Plymouth 5b 470 Norgrove Leslie Tr__h_ll_ Plymouth 5b 470
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26 Jul 2011 07:37 |
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possible for his wife
1911 census Address Maudlin Cottages Liskeard Parish Liskeard Borough Town Liskeard Type of Building Private House Number of Rooms 4 Inhabited Y Reference RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3 Administrative County Cornwall Registration District Liskeard Registration Sub District Liskeard Enumeration District 8
Householder 1 Name Lewis Grigg Relationship to Head of Household Husband Condition / Years Married / 31 Years Total Children Born Alive 10 Children Still Living 9 Children Who Have Died 1 Gender M Age 54 Estimated Year of Birth 1857 Occupation Brewer Labourer Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Kilkhampton Cornwall
Householder 2 Name Mary Elizabeth Grigg Relationship to Head of Household Wife Condition / Years Married / 31 Years Gender F Age 53 Estimated Year of Birth 1858 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Black Torrington Devon
Householder 3 Name Josephine Grigg Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 15 Estimated Year of Birth 1896 Occupation Apprentice To Dressmaking Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall
Householder 4 Name Dorothy Grigg Relationship to Head of Household Daughter Gender F Age 11 Estimated Year of Birth 1900 Occupation School Employed Y Working at Home N Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall
Householder 5 Name Edward Winston Grigg Relationship to Head of Household Son Gender M Age 9 Estimated Year of Birth 1902 Occupation School Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall
Householder 6 Name Elsie May Norgrove Relationship to Head of Household Visitor Condition / Years Married / Years Gender F Age 22 Estimated Year of Birth 1889 Employed N Working at Home N Place of Birth Liskeard Cornwall
says she is married on census
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 07:40 |
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Found her...........
1911 census - household transcription Person: NORGROVE, Elsie May Address: Maudlin Cottages Liskeard GRIGG, Lewis Husband Married 31 years M 54 1857 Brewer Labourer Kilkhampton Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 31 years F 53 1858 Black Torrington Devon VIEW GRIGG, Josephine Daughter Single F 15 1896 Apprentice To Dressmaking Liskeard Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Dorothy Daughter F 11 1900 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW GRIGG, Edward Winston Son M 9 1902 School Liskeard Cornwall VIEW NORGROVE, Elsie May Visitor Married F 22 1889 Liskeard Cornwall VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 13633 Reference: RG14PN13633 RG78PN804 RD292 SD2 ED8 SN3 Registration District: Liskeard Sub District: Liskeard Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Liskeard Borough Address: Maudlin Cottages Liskeard County: Cornwall (10 children born to Lewis and Mary........9 living, 1 had died)
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 07:49 |
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Births Jun 1912 (>99%) Norgrove Thurstan J T Grigg Devonport 5b 569
Births Jun 1915 (>99%) NORGROVE Gladys M Grigg Cardiff 11a 944
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 07:56 |
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Could this be his birth reg???
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Theophilus Leslie T Norgrove Name: Theophilus Leslie T Norgrove Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1879 Registration district: Aston Inferred County: Warwickshire Volume: 6d Page: 270
1881 England Census about Theophilus L.J. Norgrove Name: Theophilus L.J. Norgrove Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880 Relation: Son Father's name: Theophilus E. Norgrove Mother's name: Elizabeth A. Norgrove Gender: Male Where born: Bham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Street Address: 5 Grange Rd Wymeswold Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 76 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 3025 Folio: 107 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Theophilus E. Norgrove 52 Elizabeth A. Norgrove 43 Mary Norgrove 24 John J. Norgrove 22 Elizabeth A. Norgrove 21 Minnie Norgrove 18 Joseph S. Norgrove 15 Clara Norgrove 13 Emily J. Norgrove 11 Florence Norgrove 8 Ethel Norgrove 6 Theophilus L.J. Norgrove 1
1871 England Census about Joseph Nosgrove Name: Joseph Nosgrove [Joseph Norgrove] Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relation: Son Father's name: Theophilus Nosgrove Mother's name: Elizabeth A Nosgrove Gender: Male Where born: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Town: Bordesley County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend Household Members: Name Age Theophilus Nosgrove 42 Elizabeth A Nosgrove 33 Mary Nosgrove 14 John T Nosgrove 12 Elizabeth A Nosgrove 10 Minnie Nosgrove 9 Joseph Nosgrove 5 Clara Nosgrove 3 Emily J Nosgrove 1 Elizabeth Rezwin 54 (Boarder) Sarah A Davies 14 (Servant)
1861 England Census about Theophilus C Korgrove Name: Theophilus C Korgrove [Theophilus C Norgrove] Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth A Korgrove Gender: Male Where born: Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Aston Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Deritend ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 156 Piece: 2171 Folio: 71 Page Number: 27 Household Members: Name Age Theophilus C Korgrove 32 Elizabeth A Korgrove 23 Mary Korgrove 4 John T Korgrove 2 Elizabeth A Korgrove 1
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blackduck
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26 Jul 2011 07:57 |
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Thank you, Thank you, Thank you.
You have no idea how much this information means to me.
Leslie Trewhella Norgrove was born Theophilus Leslie Trewhella Norgrove and I have been searching for him since 2000.
I have him on 1881 Census with parents Theophilus Corban Norgrove and Elizabeth Ann Kegwin, but he disappeared after that.
Elizabeth died in 1881 and Theo took his four youngest daughters to Australia Clara b1867, Ethel b1869, Emily Jane b1869 and Florence b1872. I don't know when they arrived but it was after 1881 and before 1903 as they are on the 1903 Victorian Roll.
Theo Corban Norgrove & daughter Florence are buried in Kew Cemetery in Victoria Australia, Ethel married in Australia, Clara I can trace till 1909 in Vic then disappears, Emily Jane I can trace till 1914 in Vic then she disappears.
I found Leslie Norgrove's Naval death notice in ancestry when I was searching something else the name just intrigued me so I clicked on it, I found the marriage and now thanks to your wonderful help I'll be able to search and verify this information further.
Theophilus Leslie Trewhella Norgrove is my husbands great great uncle.
Again Thank you Thank you Thank you for your wonderful help.
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 08:04 |
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Well thats good news!!
Happy hunting!! x
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Jonesey
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26 Jul 2011 08:06 |
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Leslie's widow remarrying??
Marriages Mar 1921 (>99%) Norgrove Elsie M Cornish Liskeard 5c 96 Cornish William B Norgrove Liskeard 5c 9_
Her death???
Name: Elsie M Cornish Birth Date: abt 1888 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962 Age at Death: 74 Registration district: Plymouth Inferred County: Devon Volume: 7a Page: 844
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 08:10 |
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Elsie's parents marriage........
Marriages Dec 1881 (>99%) GRIGG Lewis Holsworthy 5b 981 KNIGHT Mary Elizabeth Holsworthy 5b 981
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blackduck
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26 Jul 2011 08:29 |
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WOW Thank you again
All I have to do is check check and recheck all the information and order some more certificates. Yippee!! more money to spend,
and then (groan) try to find Theo/Leslie somewhere between 1881 Census and 1911 Census am I in for another 10 year fishing expedition, ah well keeps me occupied and out of mischief.
Anyone know where I might search to find a copy of his Naval records.
Thank you again everyone for your wonderful help
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Jonesey
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26 Jul 2011 08:52 |
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Sorry I do not know the answer to your last question but it looks as if Leslie's son followed in his fathers footsteps and entered service with the Royal Navy:
Name: Thurston Joseph ??Hella Norgrode [Thurston Joseph ??Hella Norgrove] Medal or Award: RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal Service Year: 1944-1963
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 09:13 |
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Brother Joseph..........?
1911 census - household transcription Person: NORGROVE, Joseph Corban Institution: No 7 Company Army Service Corps, NO 7 COMPANY ARMY SERVICE CORPS, POTCHEFSTROOM, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA Military details: Warrant Officer Army School Master NORGROVE, Joseph Corban Married ? 45 1866 Birmingham Warwick VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 34993 Reference: RG14PN34993 RD641 SD18 ED13 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Address: Cantonment Potchefstroom S A County: Overseas military
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Joseph C Norgrove Name: Joseph C Norgrove Birth Date: abt 1867 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1947 Age at Death: 80 Registration district: Wolverhampton Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 9b Page: 1208
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blackduck
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26 Jul 2011 09:31 |
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WOW and WOW
I'm sure I need my glasses looked at, I've been looking and looking but not seeing
Thank you so much for all the information
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 09:36 |
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British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Joseph Corban Norgrove Name: Joseph Corban Norgrove Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Age at enlistment: 25 Birth Parish: Aston Birth County: Warwickshire Document Year: 1891 Regiment Name: Army School Master Number of images: 16
British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 about Joseph Corban Norgrove Name: Joseph Corban Norgrove Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Age at enlistment: 32 Birth Parish: Aston Birth County: Warwickshire Document Year: 1897 Regiment Name: Army School Master Number of images: 2
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PricklyHolly
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26 Jul 2011 09:41 |
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Marriages Sep 1893 (>99%) Girling Alfred James Wolverhampton 6b 884 Haycock Elizabeth Mary Wolverhampton 6b 884 Norgrove Joseph Corhan Wolverhampton 6b 884 Redman Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 884
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26 Jul 2011 09:42 |
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1911 census - household transcription Person: NORGROVE, Elizabeth Institution: No 7 Company Army Service Corps, NO 7 COMPANY ARMY SERVICE CORPS, POTCHEFSTROOM, TRANSVAAL, SOUTH AFRICA Military details: NORGROVE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 43 1868 Wolverhampton Staffs VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 34993 Reference: RG14PN34993 RD641 SD18 ED13 SN9999 Registration District: Sub District: Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Address: Cantonment Potchefstroom S A County: Overseas military
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Elizabeth Norgrove Name: Elizabeth Norgrove Birth Date: abt 1865 Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1947 Age at Death: 82 Registration district: Wolverhampton Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 9b Page: 775
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