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Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:17
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	I am searching for the birth record of my great grandfather James Grey about 1867/1969? He married Kate Winser in 1898 in Dover and they had 2 children Lucy and Frederick. His father is shown as Charles Grey a domestic coachman. On the 1911 census Kate and the children were living in Ludgershall, Hants but there is no mention of James. At the time of his daughter Lucy's marriage to Ernest Waters in 1918 he is shown as an employee of the NACB which I believe is the Navy & Army Catering Board. He died in 1934 at the age of 67 in Ludgershall. Any help would be appreciated
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:24
	1911 (for reference): GREY, Kate Head Married 15 years M 33 1878 Kent Dover GREY, Lucy Daughter F 12 1899 School Kent Dover GREY, Frederick Son M 11 1900 School Kent Dover RG14PN12059 RG78PN673 RD251 SD2 ED9 SN76 Registration District: Pewsey Sub District: Collingbourne Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Ludgershall Address: 4 Lansdowne Villas Ludgershall Andover County: Wiltshire Dea x
Member Since: July 2006 Posts: 21,823 Send Message	brummiejan	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:34
	I see the problem - presumably he is away working. Is this Kate do youn think? Doesn't entirely match. 1901 England Census Name: Kate Grey Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Dover Civil parish: Dover Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul Town: Dover County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Dover Sub-registration district: St James Kate Grey 28 Lucy Grey 2 James Grey 1 Joseph Jackson 26 Mary Jackson 27 Kate Crowley 30
	Researching: Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:36
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Thanks Dea I also have a copy of the 1901 census and James is not showing on that one either. Lesley
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 34,375 Send Message	Mike *	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:38
	Putting this here as a possible while I search further Did James have a middle name ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Sep 1897 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Crowley Catherine - Brentford 3a 291 ...... ...??? Gardiner Emily Louisa Brentford 3a 291 Gray James Frederick - Brentford 3a 291..............??? HEARN Jeremiah Brentford 3a 291
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:39
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Pam Yes this is the same family, only son James is actually Frederick James, but still no mention of his dad James. Lesley
Member Since: July 2006 Posts: 21,823 Send Message	brummiejan	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:40
	Who are the witnesses on the marriage cert? Jan
	Researching: Myatt, Hanks, Eccleston, Powell, Clungunford, Birmingham
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:41
	Has Jan posted the correct 1901 please or do you have a different one? If you do, could you please post it for reference. Dea x
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:45
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Jan The witnessess on their marriage certificae are: Louisa Grigg Elizabeth Carter Lesley
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 34,375 Send Message	Mike *	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:47
	In view of the marriage of Catherine Crowley in 1897, I Noticed that there is a Kate Crowley in the 1901 census living with Kate Grey. What relationship does it give ?
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:48
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Mike I have a copy of James and Kate's marriage certificte and there is no middle name shown for James nor on his death certificate. Lesley
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:50
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Dea Yes the info Jan has given for 1901 census is correct except son James is actuall Frederick James. Lesley
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:52
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Mike Kate Crowley is listed as a border on the 1901 census. Lesley
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 34,375 Send Message	Mike *	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:53
	Could this be James ? Household:1881 Charles GREY Head M Male 45 Shipton Moyne, Gloucester, England Carter Charlotte GREY Wife M Female 30 Bickley, Devon, England Carters Wife ************James GREY Son U Male 14 Henbury, Gloucester, England General Lab Aaron M. GREY Son Male 9 Henbury, Gloucester, England Scholar Hester E. GREY Daur Female 4 Henbury, Gloucester, England Charles H. GREY Son Male 2 Henbury, Gloucester, England Alice Maud GREY Daur Female 5 m Henbury, Gloucester, England Census Place Henbury, Gloucester, England
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 34,375 Send Message	Mike *	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:55
	This one covers Henbury in Gloucestershire. Births Sep 1866 Gray James - Clifton 6a 131
Member Since: August 2008 Posts: 8,005 Send Message	Astra	Report	6 Jul 2011 16:56
	Or this one GREY, Charles Head M 30 1841 Surrey VIEW >>>>>Carman GREY, Margarett Wife F 30 1841 Surrey VIEW GREY, Mary Ann Daughter F 9 1862 Surrey VIEW GREY, Charles Son M 7 1864 Surrey VIEW GREY, Robert Son M 5 1866 Surrey VIEW GREY, James Son M 1 1870 Surrey VIEW Civil Parish: Newington Municipal Borough: Address: Union Place, Newington County: London, Surrey
	Researching: More in hope than expectation!
Member Since: September 2006 Posts: 34,375 Send Message	Mike *	Report	6 Jul 2011 17:00
	He died in 1934 at the age of 67 making his DOB c1867 ( 1866 if he hadn't had a birthday that year) Deaths Mar 1934 Grey James- 67 - Andover 2c 361 What age did he put on his marriage cert ?
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 17:03
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi all As James does not appear on the census records, I am not able to confirm where he was born so I cannot say for sure if any you have mentioned are him, more sthe pity. Lesley
Member Since: August 2008 Posts: 8,005 Send Message	Astra	Report	6 Jul 2011 17:11
	What was his occupation on the marriage certificate?
	Researching: More in hope than expectation!
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Lesley	Report	6 Jul 2011 17:15
Member Since: July 2011 Posts: 16 Send Message	Hi Astra His occuption was a milkman. Lesley

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