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Hello Glenys, it's quite some time since these posts so Andrew mightn't be checking back.

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My late father was Victor Frederick Hunt born in Birmingham in 1926, I know his mother was married twice and so was his father so he was from the second marriages and there were 5 children altogether. I believe his mother was originally called Harriet Harding and I know she was in service, am not sure if this is the same Harriet. My father's eldest sister Daisy (who is about 93) talked about family in Meriden, even though my father was from Yardley in Birmingham.

Glenys

Any ideas? Im really struggling...

Yeah Im finding it pretty confusing really. Its difficult to identify which is him and even more difficult to figure out who his parents were.

MarieCeleste - I have the info from the marriage of sarah and thomas. The witnesses we Ann Hughes and John Pannock so not much help for Thomas. The address was just "Monk Hall".

I think with all these diffent years of birth for him it is going to be difficult

We have 1850 birmingham 1845 Manchester now 1852 birmingham...tough one

jax

In 1861 there is a Thomas harding aged 9 b birmingham with widowed mother Lucy b1819 Handsworth Staffs
In 1851 she is with husband WILLIAM b1818 but he is a plumber and glazier not a carpenter -however as he died when Thomas was very young he may not have known and just guessed that his fathers trade was the same as his

Hello Andrew, do you have Thomas and Sarah's marriage certificate to confirm info?

If that's where you got info in opening post then who were the witnesses? (If one was a sibling it might help us track back, as would an address - or was that the "Monk Hall")

Possibly your Agnes


1891 England Census
about Agnes Harding Name: Agnes Harding
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridgnorth, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: St Leonards
Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
Town: Bridgnorth
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Registration district: Bridgnorth
Sub-registration district: Bridgnorth
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2094
Folio: 9
Page Number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Smith 72
Elizabeth S Smith 32
Agnes Harding 14


Vera

Cannot find the family together in 1891.

1891 England Census
about Alice J Harding Name: Alice J Harding
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Adopted Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Bridgenorth, Shropshire, England

Civil parish: Harborne
Ecclesiastical parish: The Old Chapel
Town: Smethwick
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England



Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Harborne
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2362
Folio: 72
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph J Morris 36
Ellen Morris 39
Arthur Morris 16
Walter G Morris 13
Florence A Morris 10
Frank Morris 8
Amy Morris 3
Alice J Harding 17


Vera

Andrew

There is another Thomas with father William but not as a carpenter.

1851 England Census
about Thomas Harding Name: Thomas Harding
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Grandson
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Dale Hall, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Buerton
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Registration district: Nantwich
Sub-registration district: Bunbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Piece: 2170
Folio: 417
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Harding 64
Hannah Harding 59
Thomas Harding 4

Vera

That is certainly useful to know and as you say helps tie the births etc together. Im still stuck with Thomas' Parents however.

If it is any help - I think Monk Hall is near Morville, and Monkhampton which is not too far from Bridgnorth in Shropshire ( forgive me if you are local to Shropshire). This could tie in with some of the Births being listed at Bridg(e)north. SO 618 946 is a reference where would would like Monk Hall Grange and Monk Hall

Thanks for the info patchem. As I say it's quite confusing with the difference in the 1881 and 1871 census. Anybody having any luck with the earlier census entries?

Just to try and help in identification, claimed birthplaces in 1881:
Thomas Harding 36 Manchester, Lancashire
Sarah Harding 33 Bridgenorth, Worcestershire
Harriet Harding 10 Bridgenorth, Worcestershire
Charles Harding 7 Bridgenorth, Worcestershire
Alice Harding 5 Bridgenorth, Worcestershire
Agnes Harding 3 Bridgenorth, Worcestershire
Louisa Harding 2 Bham, Warwickshire
Florence Harding 4mo Bham, Warwickshire

Affraid I cannot see them after 1881 eyes are very sore now also....maybe someone else will pick this up and find something for you

jax

I have harriet (working away as a servant as you say) but i dont have the rest of family. To be honest with you Im struggling to keep track of Tom Hardings family full stop!

Do you have the family in 1891 ?

I see Harriet was a servant not living at home

jax

I totally agree but am a little stumped as to what other options there are.
Im hoping that at least I can find his parents and maybe that will bring some light to other areas. Isnt Family History fun!! :-S

Like you I am not seeing another that would fit for Harriet but 5 years and completly different areas of birth is odd for Thomas

jax