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1851,1841 census check please

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Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 05:55

Please can someone look for Richard Morris born 1831 Kidderminster Worcestershire occ ironworks labourer on 1881 census
According to familysearch his parents are Richard and Sarah
Richard married in 1859 in Sedgley Staffordshire

Thank you

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 06:12

I found the 1861 but not seeing the other's yet!



1861 England Census
about Richard Morris
Name: Richard Morris
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Morris
Father's name: Richard Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Kideminster, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
Ecclesiastical parish: Sedgley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 50
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 48
Piece: 2052
Folio: 110
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Morris 30
Ann Morris 21
Charlote Morris 2
Mary Ann Morris 7 MO
Edwin Nicholas 10
Richard Morris 79 (Born Coal Port, Shropshire) Boats Man

Astra

Astra Report 16 May 2011 06:14

Richard Morris
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Ann Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Kidderminster, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Sedgley
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address: 31 Woodcross St
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Laborer In Iron Works

Registration district: Dudley
Sub-registration district: Sedgley
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2872
Folio: 94
Page Number: 25
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Morris 50
Harriet Ann Morris 40
Charlotte Morris 22
Harriet Ann Morris 16
James Morris 13
Richard Morris 11
Eliza Jane Morris 7
Mary Ann Morris 5

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 May 2011 06:20

I think he's hiding!!

I found the 1861, as did PH!


Name Age
Richard Morris 30 Coal Miner
Ann Morris 21 b.ca 1840, Sedgely
Charlote Morris 2
Mary Ann Morris 7 MO
Edwin Nicholas 10 b.ca 1851, Kings Winford, Staffordshire, Nephew
Richard Morris 79 b.ca 1792, Coal Port, Shropshire, Widower, Father, Boat Man

Address:- Cinderhill




sylvia

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 06:28

Thank you all for looking
They must be badly mistranscribed on earlier census

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 06:29

Nephew

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 06:32

Thank you PH I should have read the reply properly

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 May 2011 06:32

well if Richard Sr really was a boat man, as it says on the 1861, then they could be anywhere, and they might even have avoided getting counted!



sylvia

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 06:38

Very true Sylvia

On familysearch there was a William Morris born 1829 Kidderminster with the same batch no and parents

I wonder if this is Richard and Sarahs marriage
Richard Morris married 13/12/1819 Old Swinford Worcestershire to Sarah Oldnall

Astra

Astra Report 16 May 2011 06:54

???

Richard Morris
Age: 69
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Morris
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Household schedule number: 18
Piece: 2017
Folio: 336
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Morris 69 >>>>Boatman
Sarah Morris 52
Richard Morris 20 >>>>Boatman
Charlotte Morris 15
Edwin Morris 12
Elizabeth Nicholls 4

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 07:15

Living next door but one to the family Astra has just posted...........



1851 England Census
about Maria Morris
Name: Maria Morris
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Robert Morris
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 3f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 2017
Folio: 336
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Morris 47 (Born Coolport Shropshire) Boatman
Maria Morris 48 Kinver
Ann Wellington 10 (Daughter in Law) ? Kinver
Mary Ann Morris 15 Kinver
Amelia Morris 12 Kinver
Thomas Morris 10 Kinver
David Morris 8 Kinver
Joseph Wellington 20 (Son in Law) Boat man Tettenhall
William Wellington 6 MO Tettenhall

I have edited the (age 19 i think) because i checked to see if there was a marriage for Joseph to Ann.......but there isnt.........so maybe Maria had been married before.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 May 2011 07:24

At that time "Son-in-law" or "daughter-in-law" more often meant child of spouse from before the marriage, thna it did the modern meaning


we'd call it step-child




sylvia

patchem

patchem Report 16 May 2011 07:28

From 1851 posted
Sarah, 40, with Ann, 11, Charlotte, 5, Edwin, 2, at Dibdale
separately located in ancestry.
1841 England Census
Edwin S Marris
Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Sedgley Hundred: North Seisdon County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England
Registration district: Dudley Sub-registration district: Sedgley
Piece: 998 Book: 6 Folio: 23 Page Number: 38

Edwin S Marris 2

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 998; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Sedgley; County: Staffordshire; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 23; Page: 38; Line: 3; GSU roll: 474626.

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 07:34

Oh thank you


I notice it has Elizabeth Nichols age 4. What are the relationships please?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 07:41

Elizabeth Nichols is a lodger.

Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 07:52

Thank you PH

I have found the Morris children on familysearch with the same batch no and parents
Ann Morris is born 1831 parents Robert and Maria

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 08:32

Marriages Dec 1860 (>99%)
Fletcher Richard Stourbridge 6c 314
Morris Emelia Stourbridge 6c 314



1871 England Census
about Robert Morris
Name: Robert Morris
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relation: Father-in-Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Colport, Wales
Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinfare
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Fletcher 32
Melea Fletcher 31
Robert Fletcher 9
Samuel Fletcher 4
William Fletcher 2
Robert Morris 68 (Father in Law) Widower Forge Labourer


1861 England Census
about Robert Morris
Name: Robert Morris
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinfare
Ecclesiastical parish: Kinfare
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinfare
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 13
Piece: 1985
Folio: 35
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Morris 57 (Widower) Boatman
Thomas Morris 19 Boatman
David Morris 17 Boatman



1841 England Census
about Robt Morris
Name: Robt Morris
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinver
Hundred: South Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinver
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Morris 37 (Boatman)
Maria Morris 38
Robt Morris 15
Josh Morris 12
Ann Morris 9
Mary Morris 4
Amelia Morris 2

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 10:56

Robert's son Robert from the 1841 census..........



1851 England Census
about Robert Morris
Name: Robert Morris
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Relation: Lodger
Spouse's Name: Jane Morris
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Tettenhall
ED, institution, or vessel: 3f
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 2017
Folio: 335
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Coley 32
Hannah Coley 34
Mary Coley 11
John Coley 9
Martha Coley 7
Edward Coley 5
Thomas Coley 5 MO
Robert Morris 22 (Lodger) Boatman
Jane Morris 22
Josiah Morris 2



Two Jane's unfortunately!!
??
Marriages Dec 1848 (>99%)
Furze Jane Wolverhampton 17 404
Longmore Jane Wolverhampton 17 404
MORRIS Robert Wolverhampton 17 404




1861 England Census
about Robert Morris
Name: Robert Morris
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kinfare
Ecclesiastical parish: Kinfare
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Morris 36 (Boatman)
Jane Morris 33
Joseah Morris 13
William Morris 10
Samuel Morris 6
Arthur Morris 5
Caroline Morris 2
Sarah J Morris 4 MO



1871 England Census
about Robert Morris
Name: Robert Morris
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane Morris
Gender: Male
Where born: Kinver, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kinver
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Kinfare
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Morris 44
Jane Morris 43
William H Morris 19
Arther Morris 14
Caroline Morris 12
Sarah J Morris 10
George Morris 5
Eliza Morris 3
Emily Morris 11 Months

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 16 May 2011 11:11


Household Record 1881 British Census

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Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Josiah MORRIS Head M Male 31 Kinver, Stafford, England Mechanics Labourer
Susannah MORRIS Wife M Female 29 Stourport, Worcester, England
Sarah MORRIS Daur U Female 11 Stourport, Worcester, England Scholar
David MORRIS Son U Male 8 Stourport, Worcester, England Scholar
Mary Jane MORRIS Daur U Female 6 Kidderminster, Worcester, England Scholar
Arthur Henry MORRIS Son U Male 3 Kinver, Stafford, England Scholar
Susannah MORRIS Daur U Female 1 Kidderminster, Worcester, England

Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Chadwick Sq
Census Place Kidderminster Borough, Worcester, England



Battenburg

Battenburg Report 16 May 2011 22:18

Thank you PH you have been busy