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We have a Samuel Hudson in our tree, who married an Ellen Hudson in 1865, Samuel's Father was Joseph Hudson, who was listed as a button manufacturer. They lived in Sheffield. Ellen Hudson's mother was Ann. Cannot find any connection with your family yet, but we do have a Benjamin in the tree and you are very welcome to look at that.

Mary
re marriage of Mary to Thomas Hindmarsh, there is a death Register Index entry for Mat Hindmarsh as follows
Death Register 1897 June Quarter Salford District vol 8d pg 83 - age 57

Mary

re your query on Samuel Hudson Ihave no information on how anf where he fits in

sorry
just sent the same info twice

Hi Ginny
re 1851 census John Brearley mother Lydia, I am pretty sure this is John. Benjamin and Lydia did have a son called John in 1917. There is an IGI extract for him - birth 2 Jan 1917 Christening 7 April 1917 Penistone Yorkshire

Hi Ginny

re the 1851 census record for Lydia Brearley and John. I think this is John. Benjamin and Lydia did have a son called John born 1917. There is an IGI extract for him birth 2nd Jan 1817 Christening 1817 Penistone Yorkshire

1881 Samuel Breurley born 1840 Sheffield Stone Mason married.
Lodging at Ormskirk Road Upholland Lancs D6 > 3

His wife Mary and kids in 1881
Greengate Salford D31 > 12.
Samuel 1840 died Salford A/M/J 1882.
Mary Brearley 1840 Wales married O/N/D 1883 to Thomas Hindmarsh.

1891 Greengate Salford D26 > 11
Mary Hindmarsh now a widow.

Maryb

Ah that kind of matches with the 1841 posted above. Ann and Samuel with the Hudson's. I though she may have been Ann Hudson originally but couldn't find a marriage for her to a Briesley or Brierley

Jonas born 12/11/1818 had brother Samuel born 17/2/1806 he was in 1851 was in Hunself Yorks he was a stone mason.
With him and his wife is Samuel Hudson 1840 Eckington (Sheffield) it states he is a nephew.
Do you know who his parents were?

Maryb

Got to go out now, will be back later

I had this birth record linked to Samuel son of Benjamin Brearley and Martha Helliwell. Ithink I will have to buy the certificate to be absolutely sure

I think that this is Jonas....Ive looked at the record and I'm pretty sure it says Jonas and not John

1851 England Census
about John Brearley
Name: John Brearley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Lydia Brearley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Penistone, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Penistone
Ecclesiastical parish: Penistone
Town: Penistone
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Cawthorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 2334
Folio: 417
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Lydia Brearley 74
John Brearley 34


However on the 1841 it does read John....do you think he changed to John from Jonas?

There is the birth that I posted earlier and that seems to be the nearest match

There is the village of Bradfield in Sheffield and Bradfield is very close to Wortley, a 15 minute walk

Hi Ginny

The Samuel in Worsborough, son of Benjamin, who marries Sarah Ann Marsden is definitly mine.

The other Samuel I believe to be part of a different branch of my family, and this is what I am trying to prove.

The problem is that Samuel and Benjamin are fairly common names in my tree and so is the occupation stonemason. The spelling of Brearley also often gets changed and mistranscribed.

I also have not been able to find a birth for a second Samuel Brearley c1840

Which Samuel is 'your' guy?


I cant find a birth for Samuel in Sheffield to match up with the census that Astra posted?

Samuel Briesley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Hudson 50
Ann Hudson 50
Ann Briesley 22
Samuel Briesley 1
Mary Hudson 14

Hello Astra and Mary

Yes I have Samuel who marries Mary lodging in Childer Thornton in 1861

The Samuel who marries Sarah Ann Marsden is on the 1861 census lodging with his brother William and family in Worsborough Yorkshire

I found the 1841 entry for Samuel age 1 with Ann in Sheffield on Findmypast. The surname spelling is Brierley

Yes I am saying there are two Samuel Brearleys

I have the marriage certificates for both

Samuel Brearley = Mary Jones 11th April 1861 married St Peters Chester - fathe Jonas Brearley occupation stonemason

Samuel Brearley = Sarah Ann Marsden 26th March 1862 married Ecclesfield Yorkshire - father Benjamin Brearley occupation stonemason

Samuel Brierley in 1861 lodging at Childer Thornton Cheshire born 1840 a stone mason.

I can't find the 1841 when he is with Ann,which way was his name spelt?

Maryb.

This is Samuel I think in 1861

Samuel Brierly
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Childer Thornton
County/Island: Cheshire
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2636
Folio: 25
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Williams 36
Elizabeth Williams 42
Sarah Simpson 3
Samuel Brierly 21 >>>>Stone Mason