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Jonas Brearley 1818 and Samuel Brearley c1840

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OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 10:47

I am trying to confirm a paternal link, if there is one, between a Samuel Brearley c1841 and a Jonas Brearley born in 1818 in Penistone Yorkshire England, parents Benjamin Brearley and Lydia Holmes.

I have the marriage certificate of Samuel Brearley - wife Mary Jones date 11 April 1861 Marriage in St Peter Chester England. Samuel states his father to be Jonas Brearley – stone mason.

On the 1871 census Samuel is living with his wife and four children in Flint, and his age is given as 31 therefore born c1840, birthplace is given as Sheffield Yorkshire.

On Family Search.org there are marriage records for a Jonas Brearley and Mary Stueart 19th October 1846 St Oswalds Chester. His age is given as 30 Marital status single Father Benjamin Brearley. His wife’s age is given as 40 and her status widow. From this record she does not appear to be Samuel’s mother.

There are 1841 census records for –
a Samuel Brearley age 1 in Sheffield with an Ann Brearley age 26?
A Jonas Brearley age 25 in St Nicholas Newport Lincolnshire occupation stone mason

I cannot find any other records for Jonas or for his wife Mary.

Any help would be very much appreciated

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 11:10

1861 England Census
about Samuel Brearley
Name: Samuel Brearley
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Brother
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Worsbrough
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Barnsley
Sub-registration district: Worsbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 3452
Folio: 111
Page Number: 26
Household Members: Name Age
William Brearley 28
Ruth Brearley 23
Hagar M Brearley 1
Samuel Brearley 19 MASON (Same as the 1871)
Richard Fawcett 26
Robert Pape 20


The only way to confirm who his parents were is to buy his birth certificate

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 11:16

Births Dec 1841 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Brearley Samuel Wortley 22 673


I would have a guess as this being his birth

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 11:17

1851 England Census
about Samuel Brierley
Name: Samuel Brierley
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's name: Benjamin Brierley
Mother's name: Martha Brierley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Bradfield, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradfield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Ecclesfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 73
Piece: 2335
Folio: 587
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
Benjamin Brierley 48 Stone mason
Martha Brierley 48
Joseph Brierley 21 Stone Mason
William Brierley 18 Stone Mason
Samuel Brierley 9
Mary Brierley 11
Joseph Wade 19 Stone Mason
Jane Siddons 16 Visitor


OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 11:21

Hi
This Samuel is the son of Benjamin Brearley 1802 and Martha Helliwell.
I have his marriage certificate in 1862.He married a Sarah Ann Marsden in Ecclesfield Yorkshire. The marriage certificate gives his father as Benjamin.

This is where I went wrong in the first place. I married this Samuel off to Mary Jones on my tree and am now trying to correct the error.

Incidentally, the Benjamin Brearley 1802 above is the brother of Jonas Brearley 1818

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 11:41

1841 England Census
about Joseph Briarley
Name: Joseph Briarley
[Joseph Brearley]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradfield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (North Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Bradfield
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1327
Book: 4
Folio: 26
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Benjn Briarley 35
Martha Briarley 35
Benjn Briarley 15
George Briarley 15
John Briarley 13
Joseph Briarley 11
William Briarley 8
Thirza Briarley 6
Mary Briarley 2


I am confused!

Are you saying that there are two Samuel's one with the father Benjamin and the other with the father Jonas?

Theres no sign of a Samuel with a father Jonas

Astra

Astra Report 8 May 2011 11:43

This is Samuel I think in 1861

Samuel Brierly
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Childer Thornton
County/Island: Cheshire
Household schedule number: 69
Piece: 2636
Folio: 25
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Williams 36
Elizabeth Williams 42
Sarah Simpson 3
Samuel Brierly 21 >>>>Stone Mason


Mary

Mary Report 8 May 2011 11:46

Samuel Brierley in 1861 lodging at Childer Thornton Cheshire born 1840 a stone mason.

I can't find the 1841 when he is with Ann,which way was his name spelt?

Maryb.

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 11:47

Yes I am saying there are two Samuel Brearleys

I have the marriage certificates for both

Samuel Brearley = Mary Jones 11th April 1861 married St Peters Chester - fathe Jonas Brearley occupation stonemason

Samuel Brearley = Sarah Ann Marsden 26th March 1862 married Ecclesfield Yorkshire - father Benjamin Brearley occupation stonemason

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 11:57

Hello Astra and Mary

Yes I have Samuel who marries Mary lodging in Childer Thornton in 1861

The Samuel who marries Sarah Ann Marsden is on the 1861 census lodging with his brother William and family in Worsborough Yorkshire

I found the 1841 entry for Samuel age 1 with Ann in Sheffield on Findmypast. The surname spelling is Brierley

Astra

Astra Report 8 May 2011 12:04

Samuel Briesley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Sheffield
Hundred: Strafforth and Tickhill (South Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Household Members: Name Age
Thos Hudson 50
Ann Hudson 50
Ann Briesley 22
Samuel Briesley 1
Mary Hudson 14

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 12:09

Which Samuel is 'your' guy?


I cant find a birth for Samuel in Sheffield to match up with the census that Astra posted?

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 12:30

Hi Ginny

The Samuel in Worsborough, son of Benjamin, who marries Sarah Ann Marsden is definitly mine.

The other Samuel I believe to be part of a different branch of my family, and this is what I am trying to prove.

The problem is that Samuel and Benjamin are fairly common names in my tree and so is the occupation stonemason. The spelling of Brearley also often gets changed and mistranscribed.

I also have not been able to find a birth for a second Samuel Brearley c1840

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 13:34

There is the birth that I posted earlier and that seems to be the nearest match

There is the village of Bradfield in Sheffield and Bradfield is very close to Wortley, a 15 minute walk

Gee

Gee Report 8 May 2011 13:46

I think that this is Jonas....Ive looked at the record and I'm pretty sure it says Jonas and not John

1851 England Census
about John Brearley
Name: John Brearley
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1817
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Lydia Brearley
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: Penistone, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Penistone
Ecclesiastical parish: Penistone
Town: Penistone
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Wortley
Sub-registration district: Cawthorne
ED, institution, or vessel: 6b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 2334
Folio: 417
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
Lydia Brearley 74
John Brearley 34


However on the 1841 it does read John....do you think he changed to John from Jonas?

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 13:57

I had this birth record linked to Samuel son of Benjamin Brearley and Martha Helliwell. Ithink I will have to buy the certificate to be absolutely sure

OldYorkshireBloke

OldYorkshireBloke Report 8 May 2011 14:07

Got to go out now, will be back later

Mary

Mary Report 8 May 2011 16:06

Jonas born 12/11/1818 had brother Samuel born 17/2/1806 he was in 1851 was in Hunself Yorks he was a stone mason.
With him and his wife is Samuel Hudson 1840 Eckington (Sheffield) it states he is a nephew.
Do you know who his parents were?

Maryb

Astra

Astra Report 8 May 2011 16:16

Ah that kind of matches with the 1841 posted above. Ann and Samuel with the Hudson's. I though she may have been Ann Hudson originally but couldn't find a marriage for her to a Briesley or Brierley

Mary

Mary Report 8 May 2011 16:59

1881 Samuel Breurley born 1840 Sheffield Stone Mason married.
Lodging at Ormskirk Road Upholland Lancs D6 > 3

His wife Mary and kids in 1881
Greengate Salford D31 > 12.
Samuel 1840 died Salford A/M/J 1882.
Mary Brearley 1840 Wales married O/N/D 1883 to Thomas Hindmarsh.

1891 Greengate Salford D26 > 11
Mary Hindmarsh now a widow.

Maryb