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And you can try searching the 1881 census for free on

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

Select 1881 on the census drop-down box.

thanks marieceleste ill have a go x

Lorraine, time for you to do some research!

FreeBMD is an excellent (and free!) site for record searches - http://www.freebmd.org.uk

Firstly, search for possible births to Alfred Philip by searching births surname Bannocks, timescale would be from their marriage in 1883 to 1911 and note down any possibles (you've got the names of quite a few already).

Then, search for deaths for the same period noting down those that have died at a young age.

That is as much as we would have to go on, and it's much more satisfying to find things yourself.

Also, Ancestry usually offer a 14 day free trial so you might want to take that up.

Good luck, and do come back on this thread if you get stuck.

However, someone might come along and do the work for you - depends who's about.

some one mentioned that there was 12 cgildren in all but only 8 survived .. can anyone find out the ones that didnt for me and dates of birth and death please so i can add them to the tree ?

Baptisms of some of Alfred Philip's children:

Name Date Parent Names Parish or Poor Law Union Borough

Elizabeth Emma Bannocks 29 Jul 1883 Alfred Philip Bannocks, Elizabeth Annie Bannocks Somers Town Christ Church Camden

Philip Edwin Bannocks 20 Mar 1887 Alfred Philip Bannocks,
Elizabeth Annie Bannocks St Pancras Old St Pancras Camden

Esther Emily Bannocks 17 Mar 1889 Alfred Philip Bannocks,
Elizabeth Annie Bannocks Somers Town Christ Church Camden

Louisa Alice Bannocks 11 Feb 1891 Alfred Philip Bannocks,
Elizabeth Annie Bannocks Stepney St Philip Tower Hamlets

William Henry Bannocks 23 Nov 1892 Alfred Philip Bannocks, Elizabeth Annie Bannocks Stepney St Philip Tower Hamlets

Francis George Bannocks 11 Feb 1894 Alfred Philip Bannocks, Elizabeth Annie Bannocks

Thinks this is his family in 1861, but mother's name written down wrong:

BANNOCKS, Alfred Head Married M 33 1828 Letter Sorter Post Surrey
BANNOCKS, Caroline Wife Married F 33 1828 Bethnal Green
BANNOCKS, Alfred S Son M 9 1852 Scholar Mile End
BANNOCKS, Cordelia Daughter F 7 1854 Scholar Mile End
BANNOCKS, Lusia S A Daughter F 3 1858 Bethnal Green
BANNOCKS, Emily A Daughter F 0 (8M) 1861 Bethnal Green

Registration District: Bethnal Green Sub District: 3 Church Enumeration District: 3 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Bartholomew

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Municipal Borough:

Address: 7, Temple Street, Bethnal Green, London County: London, Middlesex

1901:

BANNOCKS, Alfred Philip Head Married M 49 1852 Night Watchman Mile End London
BANNOCKS, Elizth Annie Wife Married F 38 1863 Long Acre London
BANNOCKS, Philip Edwin Son Single M 14 1887 Errand Boy St Pancras London
BANNOCKS, Esther Emily Daughter Single F 12 1889 St Pancras London
BANNOCKS, Louisa Alice Daughter F 10 1891 Whitechapel London
BANNOCKS, Francis Geo Son M 7 1894 Whitechapel London
BANNOCKS, Albert Edd Son M 3 1898 Leyton Essex

Registration District: West Ham Sub District: North Leyton Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: Christ Church Leyton

Civil Parish: Low Leyton Municipal Borough:

Address: 57, Sidmouth Road, Low Leyton County: Essex

Our dinner's ready if someone wants to run with the census - unless Lorraine wants to go looking?

It's mainly from Ancestry.co.uk

1911 from findmypast.co.uk

Dea x

can i ask what websites everyone uses to get this info?

Got it!

Cordelia Mary Mathews
Spouse Name: Alfred Bannocks - Police Constable
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 04 Apr 1847
Parish: St John, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: James Mathews - Weigher?
Spouse Father Name: Philip Bannocks - General Postman

Grooms address 18 Robert St
Brides 4 Devonshire St

Witness - Sophia Sarah Edwards, P something - can't make it out

thanks alot for all the info from everyone ... all this info will give me loads to be working on ... many thanks again its really appreciated ...lorraine x

Can't spot PR of marriage at the moment, but gro

Alfred Bannocks
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1847
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Registration county (inferred): London
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 21

Parent's banns

Alfred Bannocks
Spouse Name: Cordelia Mary Matthews
Record Type: Banns
Marriage Bann Date: 21 Feb 1847...this is mistranscribed and should read
7 March
14 March
21 March
Parish: St John, Bethnal Green
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets

More details on the marriage:


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Alfred Philip Bannocks < Porter
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year:
Spouse Name: Elizabeth Annie Cook
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 01 Apr 1883
Parish: St Pancras Old Church
County: Middlesex
Borough: Camden
Spouse Father Name: George Thomas Cook < Carving Gilder??

Alfred's father was dead. Witnesses were CE Pilfold and E Cook. Address for both was Old St Pancras.

Strangely, he was baptised twice - this is the first one:


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
about Alfred Phillips Bannocks Name: Alfred Phillips Bannocks
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1852
Baptism Date: 27 Feb 1852
Born 3rd Feb., 1852
Father's name: Alfred Bannocks - Postman
Mother's name: Cordelia Mary Bannocks
Parish or Poor Law Union: Mile End Old Town St Peter
Borough: Tower Hamlets

address 19 Cleveland St,

Dea x

wonderful..thank you very much for all the info x

Marriage
Vol 1b page 125

>>>>>Alfred Philip Bannocks Apr-May-Jun 1883 Pancras London
>>>>>>Elizabeth Annie Cook Apr-May-Jun 1883 Pancras London
Frederick Roke Apr-May-Jun 1883 Pancras London
Anna Maria Warrington Apr-May-Jun 1883 Pancras London

Editted off parish record of marriage, but leaving details from image

Grooms father not named, just DEAD
Alfred was a Porter.
Brides father a Carrier if Letter
Both of full age
Address Old Pancras
Witnessed by C E Pilfold or Pelfold, and E Cook

1911:

BANNOCKS, Alfred Phillip Head Married M 59 1852 Night Watchman London Bethnal Green
BANNOCKS, Elizabeth Annie Wife Married 29 years F 48 1863 London Westminster
BANNOCKS, Elizabeth Emma Daughter Single F 27 1884 Tie Maker London St Pancras
BANNOCKS, Phillip Edwin Son Single M 24 1887 Railway Porter London St Pancras
BANNOCKS, Ester Emily Daughter Single F 22 1889 Seing Machinist Blouse London St Pancras
BANNOCKS, Francis George Son Single M 17 1894 Office Messenger London Whitechapel
BANNOCKS, Albert Edward Son M 13 1898 School Essex Leyton
BANNOCKS, Rose Maud Daughter F 9 1902 School Essex Leyton
BANNOCKS, Frances Julia Daughter F 6 1905 School Essex Leytonstone

Registration District: West Ham Sub District: South Leyton Enumeration District: 3 Parish: Low Leyton

Address: 72 Ashville Road Leytonstone E
County: Essex

They'd had 12 children, 8 of whom survived

Alfred Philip Bannocks
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1857
Baptism Date: 22 Mar 1857
Father's name: Alfred Bannocks
Mother's name: Cordelia Mary Bannocks
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St Bartholomew
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Will get image info.....

Born 3 Feb 1852
Address at time of bap- 3 Temple? St
Father's occ Letter Carrier