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Hi Marie

It sounds promising - I will have a look, I might request the certficates as mentioned by Christina to try and clarify some bits - it does get confusing

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This 1861 census may be unconnected, but it DID say on Emily's marriage certificate that her father was Robert, a bricklayer:

RICKETTS, Robert Head Married M 40 1821 Bricklayer Chelsea Middlesex
RICKETTS, Martha Wife Married F 40 1821 Bricklayer Wife Pimlico Middlesex
RICKETTS, Robert Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Scholar Pimlico Middlesex
RICKETTS, James Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Scholar Pimlico Middlesex
RICKETTS, Alfred Son M 9 1852 Scholar Pimlico Middlesex
RICKETTS, George Son M 8 1853 Scholar Pimlico Middlesex
RICKETTS, Joseph Son M 3 1858 Scholar Kensington Middlesex
RICKETTS, Martha Daughter F 0 (5M) 1861 Chelsea Middlesex

Registration District: Chelsea Sub District: 3 Chelsea North-East Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: St Saviours

Civil Parish: Chelsea Municipal Borough:

Address: 16, North Street, Chelsea County: London, Middlesex

Hi Val

Yes on the 1st three children she put it down as Gay, on the 8th child she put maiden name as Ricketts so we have now req'd the certificate for the 7th child

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Hi was the mother's name Emily Gay on the three oldest children?

Thanks Christina - that sounds really promising and makes sense with regards to the two names of Gay and Ricketts


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I see Emily Ricketts and Emily Gay are both registered Jul-Sep 1868 St. Saviour Vol. 1d Page 8

I'm guessing this means the parents weren't married so registered her under both names.

Hi Andy

Thanks for looking for me - not sure whether Charlotte is a relation, I think it might be the census with Hettie, Hellen, Robert and Emily on - not sure though
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Looks like Charlotte Gay married Henry Barker

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
about Charlotte Gay Name: Charlotte Gay
Spouse Name: Henry Barker
Spouse Age: Full Age
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 08 Jun 1862
Parish: St Marylebone
County: Middlesex
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: William Gay
Spouse Father Name: George Barker



Andy

Hi Rambling Rose

Not sure if they are the ones, think the census for 1871 is the one with Hellen, Emily and Robert - not sure for certain though

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There is a marriage for a Charlotte Gay, marylebone June 1862...misssing spouse on the list, might be worth checking out?

1871 census note there is an Emily !!

GAY, Hettie Head F 48 1823 Middlesex VIEW
GAY, Hellen Daughter F 14 1857 Middlesex VIEW
GAY, Robert Son M 11 1860 Middlesex VIEW
GAY, Emily Daughter F 3 1868 Middlesex VIEW

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Registration District:
Westminster Sub District:
St Anne Soho Enumeration District:
13 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St Anne Municipal Borough:
Westminster Address:
Prince's Row, St Anne, Westminster County:
London, Middlesex

Hi Londonbelle

That could be them as a bit complicated but on of my Grandad's brother James George French married an Ellen Ricketts so this could be them perhaps

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Hi Londonbelle

That could be them as a bit complicated but on of my Grandad's brother James George French married an Ellen Ricketts so this could be them perhaps

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Possible for Emily with brother Robert??

#1871 England Census
about Emily Gay Name: Emily Gay
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann Reynold
Gender: Female
Where born: St Martins, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age

Hettie Gay 48
Hellen Gay 14
Robert Gay 11
Emily Gay 3


One of the witnesses to Emilys marriage is (H)Ellen

Andy

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1881 England Census
about Robert Gay Name: Robert Gay
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Charlotte Gay
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 304 Portobello Rd Eastside
Education:

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Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 43c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Charlotte Gay 34
Alice Gay 11
Elizabeth Gay 7
Kate Gay 5
Nellie Gay 4
Maude Gay 2
Robert Gay 1

Robert & Emily in the 1871 census? Wonder whether their mother married a Mr Ricketts?

Name: Robert Gay
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Hettie Gay
Gender: Male
Where born: St Giles, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: St Anne Soho
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Westminster
Sub-registration district: St Anne Soho
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members:
Name Age
Hettie Gay 48
Hellen Gay 14
Robert Gay 11
Emily Gay 3

Hi Shirley

That is them on the 1901 Census with Robert Gay connection but still cannot get anywhere with that

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Hi Tempest

I thought it was him on the 1881 census but my cousin apparently got the marriage cert and it isn't him but I thought it was.

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1901 census
FRENCH, Charles Head Married M 46 1855 Wood Chopper
Marylebone
London VIEW
FRENCH, Emily Wife Married F 33 1868 Charwoman
Marylebone
London VIEW
FRENCH, Charles Son Single M 13 1888
Marylebone
London VIEW
FRENCH, William Son Single M 12 1889
Marylebone
London VIEW
FRENCH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1887
Hammersmith
London VIEW
GAY, Robert Brother-In-Law Single M 39 1862 Tailor
Marylebone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
London VIEW

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RG number:
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127 Page:
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Registration District:
Fulham Sub District:
North Hammersmith Enumeration District:
23 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Clements

Civil Parish:
Hammersmith Municipal Borough:
Address:
42, Hunt Street, Hammersmith County:
London

Name of my mum is Marie May French (married WIlliam Thomas Bridger) and was born in 1906 in West Ham. The first three children are Charles French born 1887 (Marylebone), WIlliam Benjamin French 1888 (Marylebone) and Herbert Victor French 1890 (Marylebone)

Thanks

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