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will do marieceleste lol I think it's all fascinating and just wish my Grandparents hadn't been so ashamed about illegitimate babies, would have saved me a lot of time

Julie, do come back on here and let us know what the cert says - we're nosy!

thanks Patchem thats the right family, my 2x gteat granny.( I think its Frittenden -birth place for Rosa)

thanks for all your help everyone. I think I'll order the marriage cert to see what clues are on there. I'm more confused than before now lol

1891 England Census
Rose Moore
Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Grittenolen, Kent, England
Civil parish: Cranbrook Ecclesiastical parish: St Dunstan Town: Cranbrook County/Island: Kent Country: England Registration district: Cranbrook Sub-registration district: Cranbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 2

Rose Moore 27 widowed charwoman
Elenor Moore 6
Richard Moore 4
William Moore 2

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 694; Folio 23; Page 3; GSU roll: 6095804.

There's a few Emily Burchett deaths registered in Kent. Thought if you knew when she'd died we could have got birth year from that.

she did stay as a a Burchett as mu Auntie knew Emily and Freds daughter but no one can work out the family connection ???? that generation is so much older and they don't like talking about it when there's illegitimate babies involved allthough my Auntie is in her 80's and wants to know

Births Sep 1884
Moore Elizabeth Eleanor Cranbrook 2a 750

oohh patchem That fits cos I know that Rosa's daughter Elizabeth married Mundalus Chapman. So I wonder who Emily's mum is???if she's listed as step sister, she must have been a Bowles not a Moore
, could she have been Stephen's grand daughter mayber???

Mike what does that mean???? living as juvelnile aged 8 years but where

The Emily Bowles, born Tunbridge Wells is probably this one in 1901

Emily J Bowles- 10 - born Kent Chatham- residing Kent Chatham -Juvenile

Julie - do you have any idea as to when and where she died (presuming she remained as a Burchett)?

So your DOB for Emily is based on finding a birth in the name of Bowles ?

But she wouldn't have been Bowles - not then anyway - not if Rosa was her mother.

Think you need to start from what you know.
Get her marriage cert, work out her age, see who she names as her father ( maybe step-father) and THEN find the correct birth which will tell you if Rosa was her mother.

1911
CHAPMAN, Mundelus Frank Head Married M 23 1888 Wagoner On Farm Hawkhurst Kent
CHAPMAN, Elenor Elizabeth Wife Married
2 years F 27 1884 Cranbrook Kent
BOWLES, Emily Step Sister In Law Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Cranbrook Kent

RG number: RG14 Piece: 4211 Reference: RG14PN4211 RG78PN166 RD53 SD2 ED7 SN206
Registration District: Cranbrook Sub District: Hawkhurst Enumeration District: 7 Parish: Hawkhurst Address: Ellenden Cottages Hawkhurst Kent County: Kent

Births Jun 1890
Bowles Emily Tunbridge 2a 678

Marriages Sep 1909
xxx CHAPMAN Mundelus Frank Cranbrook 2a 1863
xxx MOORE Elizabeth Ellonar Cranbrook 2a 1863
ROGERS Nellie Cranbrook 2a 1863

1901

Emily Moore - 8 - born Kent Cranbrook - residing Kent Smarden - Juvenile

haven't got marriage cert but Auntie told me she married Fred Burchett so did lookup fopund it Dec 1912 Cranbrook vol 2a page 1987 I got her birth year from another member who is related to Stephen Bowles and found a birth for Emily Bowles June 1890 Tunbridge or Tonbridge Vol 2a page 678 . I also know she was older than my Grandad as he lodged with her as a young man

The birth I posted above would appear to be this one .... not Rosa's daughter

Emily Victoria Moore --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 18 DEC 1892 Sissinghurst, Kent, England

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Parents:
Father: William Moore
Mother: Emily Moore

Just for helper's reference - here's the 1901:

BOWLES, Stephen Head Widower M 50 1851 Waggoner On Farm Yalding Kent
BOWLES, Thomas W Son Single M 17 1884 Waggoner's Mate On Farm Pembury Kent
BOWLES, Mary A Daughter Single F 14 1887 Capel Kent
BOWLES, Albert E Son Single M 12 1889 Capel Kent
MOORE, Rosa House Keeper Widow F 36 1865 Housekeeper Domestic Frittenden Kent
MOORE, Richard W Boarder Single M 14 1887 Waggoner's Mate On Farm Frittenden Kent
MOORE, William Boarder Single M 12 1889 Cranbrook Kent
MOORE, Elizabeth E Boarder Single F 16 1885 Cranbrook Kent
MOORE, Florence Boarder Single F 7 1894 Cranbrook Kent

Registration District: Cranbrook Sub District: Cranbrook Enumeration District: 5 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Dunstan

Civil Parish: Cranbrook Municipal Borough:

Address: Furnace Farm, Cranbrook County: Kent

and her marriage record?

Marriages Dec 1912
BOWLES Emily Burchett Cranbrook 2a 1987
Burchett Frederick Bowles Cranbrook 2a 1987

my Grandad is Reginald Moore aged 9 on 1911 census

What makes you think she was born 1890 ?

Her age should be on her marriage certificate.

Did she have a middle name ?
Could this be her ?


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Births Dec 1892
Moore Emily Victoria - Cranbrook 2a 724

Maddie thanks for that but I allready have it that's what's confusing me Where is Emily, not on 1901 census or 1911. I know she was around as my Aunt can remember my grandad talking about her and calling her Auntie Em