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Can some please see if they can find this family in 1841 --- I have tried everything I can possibly think of -- Many Many Thanks

1851 census -Minffordd, Llangefni
HARRISON, William Head Married M 40 1811 Game Keeper
DentonLancashire
HARRISON, Ellen Wife Married F 39 1812 Flap Staffordshire
HARRISON, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 At Home Denton Lancashire
HARRISON, Jane Daughter Unmarried F 16 1835 At Home Denton Lancashire
HARRISON, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 At Home Denton Lancashire
HARRISON, William Son Unmarried M 5 1846 At Home Dupinfield Cheshire ---- think this is Dukinfield ¿


1861 20, Fouler Street, Macclesfield
WILLIAMSON, Thomas Head Married M 38 1823 Collier Bradburn Cheshire
WILLIAMSON, Martha Wife Married F 36 1825 Denton Lancashire
WILLIAMSON, Herbert Son Unmarried M 13 1848 Bradburn Cheshire
HARRISON, William Visitor Married M 50 1811 Gamekeeper
Denton Lancashire
HARRISON, Ellen Wife Married F 50 1811 Ridgeway Staffordshire


Thank you

Is it possible that this is a second marriage for either of them?
(Have you got birth certificates for any of the children?)
Thanks

No, looks like first marriage if this is one of the children:
MARY ANN HARRISON
Birth: 07 MAR 1834
Christening: 20 JUL 1834 Denton, Lancashire, England
Father: WILLIAM HARRISON Mother: ELLEN C005142

Thanks for responding

It is possible of course that William married another Ellen and vice versa ---

I have marriage certs for Sarah Harrison --- but have never been able to find with any real conviction her birth a GRO reference --

- I have seen the Baptisms records ( those that are transcribed ) at Denton and she is not shown ---some other trees show different parents for her --- but that Sarah Harrison is shown as dying at aged 6 -- with those parents ---

This family have been driving me crazy ---Sarah married twice -- but had daughters with with my Rellie --- naming them after her dead husband -- before marrying my Rellie

Therefore they had a bunch of children all with different surnames -- which they listed either with one ot the other -- as the mood took them

William is believed to be a grandson !!!

also just to keep the muddle going all these grandchildren suddenly appear --

Pipe Row, Oldham Below Town, Oldham 1871 Census
HARRISON, William Head M 67 1804 Denton Cheshire
HARRISON, Ellen Wife F 65 1806 Leek Staffordshire
HARRISON, Jane Granddaughter F 15 1856 Sandbach Cheshire
HARRISON, Ann Granddaughter F 14 1857 Sandbach Cheshire
HARRISON, Frederick Grandson M 7 1864 Guildford Surrey


Frederick Harrison ----I found this --- no idea whether correct of not

Name: Charles Frederick Harrison
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Dec 1864
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARY,GUILDFORD,SURREY,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Eleanor Harrison

Births Sep 1864
HARRISON Charles Frederick Guildford 2a 52


and this

Eleanor Harrison
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Apr 1848
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT JOHN,PRESTON,LANCASHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: William Harrison
Mother's Name: Ellen

And Frederick appears to be the son of my Rellie Joseph

1881 Cemetery Lodge, Chadderton
GILLETT, Joseph Head Married M 46 1835 Gravedigger
Woodstock
GILLETT, Sarah Wife Married F 38 1843 Denton Lancs
GILLETT, Fredrick Son Single M 17 1864 Gravedigger Dunsfold Surrey
GILLETT, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 12 1869 ScholarMow Cop
GILLETT, Sussannah Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Mow Cop
GILLETT, Mary E Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar Chadderton
GILLETT, William Son Single M 4 1877 Chadderton
GILLETT, Annie Daughter Single F 3 1878 Chadderton
PLATT, Elizabeth A Cousin Married F 24 1857 Cotton Reeler
Sandbach Cheshire
OSWALD, Thomas Lodger Single M 19 1862 Cotton Spinner
Birmingham

Note the first two daughters are registered as Doyle !!!!

This lot are driving me crazy

I was going to suggest getting William Harrison's, (Dukinfield, 1846) birth certificate, but there are several possible births for him. (To try and find more information about Ellen)
Harrison is just an extremely common name. I was trying to find gamekeepers but not having much luck.
Sorry.

Patchem

Thank you so much ---------apart from the actual marriage certs for Sarah s two marriages ---and certs for the first two Doyle ( Gillett) girls -- with father unknown ------the remaining two girls and William -- are proper certs with Joseph showing it seems that all before that is speculation -------

--Not helped by a mass of Harrisons ( at Denton ) who were all hatters

-------it is a nightmare

Have not even found Ellen s surname

Am almost at the stage -- or writing in Unknown -- against Josephs partner lol

Thanks for looking

nudging up in case any one is bored !!

nudging up in case any one is bored !!

Nudgin' your plight for today Renes, lol

Chris :)

Thanks Chris

How are you sweetie ---

think this will need more than a nudge ---- possibly a a dynamite charge may

-----------------May help

Renes xxx

Hi All

am nudging this up --

Just possible someone can help with something new


Thanks

Renes

I have received a pm from a member researching the same family -- a ¿ sister Mary Ann --- it is as follows

Hi Irene,

I have just been reading some posts from last year concerning William Harrison. I've been having the same trouble tracing Mary Ann Harrison, whom I believe is the daughter of your William.

In the 1871 & 1881 census returns Mary gave her place of birth as Denton, Cheshire, but both her marriages were registered as Oldham, Lancashire.

Her first marriage was to John Bromeley (another one hard to find as the spelling of the surname keeps changing). John died in 1869 and she then married Edmund Baker in 1874 before emigrating to America with her daughters Sarah & Clara (they appear on the 1885 Minnesota Census).

for info

1881

John W. RICHARDSON Head M Male 28 New York British Subject, United States Carpenter & Joiner
Mary Ellen RICHARDSON Wife M Female 26 Oldham, Lancashire, England Dressmaker
James RICHARDSON Son U Male 5 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Francis RICHARDSON Son U Male 5 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Mary H. RICHARDSON Daur U Female 2 Oldham, Lancashire, England
Ada E. RICHARDSON Daur U Female 3 m Oldham, Lancashire, England
Mary A. BAKER Mother In Law M Female 47 Denton, Cheshire, England General Servant
Sarah J. ... Sis U Female 14 Gorton Manchester Dressmakers Apprentice
Clara B. B... Sis U Female 10 Oldham, Lancashire, England Scholar

Source Information:
Dwelling 36 Peel St
Census Place Oldham, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341973
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 4068 / 58
Page Number 30

Clara is Clara Bromley (cf lancsbmd) so presumably Sarah is too

John Richardson married Mary Ellen Bromley b 1854 mmn = Harrison

Thank you

marriage of Sarah Doyle nee Harrison for ref (age 36 in 1874 according to certificate!)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12430-39066-72?cc=1788853&wc=10932970

Thank you -- for looking

Yes --- I have that cert --- that is her marriage to my rellie ---- he states he is a widower -- although an earlier marriage I have never found --- I think both of them had a slight problem with factual events -- to speak politely of them

the marriage of Sarah Harrison to Robert Doyle

Name: Robert Doyle
Event: Marriage
Event Date: 01 May 1859
Event Place: Prestbury, Cheshire, England
Gender: Male
Age: 29y
Marital Status: Widowed
Father: Thomas Doyle
Mother:
Spouse: Sarah Harrison
Spouse's Marital Status: Single
Spouse's Father: William Harrison
Spouse's Mother:
Film Number: 2093806
Digital Folder Number: 4018883
Image Number: 57

Thank you again for helping

Yes - I also have that - -