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Florence Selina Townshend nee Cook 1903

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Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Mar 2011 11:29

Yes, I would buy the Florence Selina Russell birth cert.
It will either have mother as Mrs Russell formerly something else, or if it just says Russell with no maiden name then it looks like she was unmarried.

Tina

Tina Report 18 Mar 2011 01:45

Thanks Mike,

I get the Russell bit now. I have Florence Selina's marriage cert showing name as Cook but I guess she could have just taken on her mother's husband's surname when she married him. If I get the Florence Selina Russell's birth cert 1902 presumably this will show maiden name of her mother and if it is Russell then looks as if you've answered it. It's all fascinating and frustrating too! Thank you again and I'll let you know what I uncover.

Tina

Mike *

Mike * Report 18 Mar 2011 00:56

Tina, it's speculation at this point.

There is no Albert J Cook birth for 1900
and none for Edwrad John Cook in 1903.

There are however births with those christian names but with surname Russell.

There is also a Florence Selina Russell birth in 1902

It's possible that they were born to mother Florence before she married Albert James Cook..... so maybe she was Florence Russell who married A. J. Cook in 1914


Marriages Dec 1914

Cook Albert J - Russell - Kingston 2a 1033
Russell Florence S - Cook - Kingston 2a 1033

This needs to be proved yet and may be totally wrong but it's worth considering and checking out with the aid of the certificates.

Tina

Tina Report 18 Mar 2011 00:53

Just realised I have made an error in previous message. I am of course looking for Florence Selina Cook's mother's name. Not maiden name as I have written. I've checked a possible Peachey for her mother's maiden name. I'm so embarrassed to have made things even more confusing. Sorry.

Tina

Tina Report 18 Mar 2011 00:46

You have all been so generous with your time, but I am afraid I don't totally understand any outcome! Sorry. I don't quite see where the "Russell" connection comes in with a birth in 1902 and a marriage in 1914? As shown by Maureen. I know that Florence Selina Cook married a Townshend on 17.1.1925. I am looking for Florence Selina Cook's maiden name and I have checked a possible Peachey maiden name as shown by Eveie, but the Florence Peachey I can find on the censuses was still single in 1911, so don't think this is the one because she (mother also Florence) must have married James Albert (or Albert James) well before as they had seven children by that date. Please excuse me if I'm being a nuisance and thank you again. Tina

Tina

Tina Report 16 Mar 2011 01:22

Oh dear, I must be awfully dim or perhaps just tired. I cannot understand some of this. I think the best thing is to get some sleep and look again tomorrow, maybe it will make sense to me then. Thank you all. Tina

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Mar 2011 23:12

Looking good,Chris!!

Maureen

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Mar 2011 22:59


Births Jun 1900 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Russell Albert James Wandsworth 1d 750



Births Dec 1903 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Russell Edward John C Lambeth 1d 450


To add with Maureens find...

Chris :)

Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2011 22:56

Hello again Patchem. Have referred to death which I know was 25.12.1939 age shown as 37. Hope this helps. Tina

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Mar 2011 22:55

Name: Florence S Townshend
Death Registration Month/Year: 1939
Age at death (estimated): 37
Registration district: Surrey South Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 1182

Is this her death?...

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 15 Mar 2011 22:53

This might be interesting to look at:
Births Sep 1902
Russell Florence Selina C Lambeth 1d 458


Marriages Dec 1914 (>99%)
Cook Albert J Russell Kingston 2a 1033
Russell Florence S Cook Kingston 2a 1033

Maureen

Tina

Tina Report 15 Mar 2011 22:51

Hello Patchem. No sorry do not have exact dob for Florence. Marriage cert on 17th Jan 1925 shows age as 22, so she would have 23 during that year, making her birth year as 1902. (unless she had a birthdate between 1st and 17th Jan. in which case she would have been born in 1903). 1911 census shows her age as 8, making her birth year 1903 (not sure what month census is carried out though, so perhaps her birthdate was between 1st and 17th Jan?? Sorry cannot be more definite, have been unable to find any birth registered for her. Thanks for all help. Tina

patchem

patchem Report 15 Mar 2011 22:17

Do you know Florence's exact date of birth?
Thanks

patchem

patchem Report 15 Mar 2011 22:12

1901 census taken on 31st March, so not birth Sep 1901
He was 11 months in 1901.

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Mar 2011 22:09


Births Sep 1901 --------------- COOK Albert James - Williton 5c 241

patchem

patchem Report 15 Mar 2011 22:01

Sidney?
Births Sep 1909
Cook Sydney Joseph Lambeth 1d 452

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Mar 2011 22:00

1901

COOK, Albert J Head Married M 30 1871 General Labourer
Mitcham
Surrey
COOK, Florence Wife Married F 21 1880
Clapham
COOK, Albert J Son M 0 (11 MOS) 1901
Wandsworth

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
431 Folio:
10 Page:
12

Registration District:
Lambeth Sub District:
Brixton Enumeration District:
43 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Matthews

Civil Parish:
Lambeth Municipal Borough:
Address:
23, Vining Street, Lambeth County:
London

Chris :)

patchem

patchem Report 15 Mar 2011 21:52

Is this Hilda's birth:
Births Mar 1911
Cook Hilda G Croydon 2a 388

Mike *

Mike * Report 15 Mar 2011 21:50

children listed in 1911 should be
James, Florence (1903), Edward, Henry, Elizabeth, Sidney & Hilda according to poster.

EDIT :
Thanks Patchem

patchem

patchem Report 15 Mar 2011 21:48

This is 1911:
COOK, James Head Married M 41 1870 Smelton Metal Mitcham Surrey
COOK, Florence Wife Married 11 years F 31 1880 Clapham London
COOK, James Son M 10 1901 Wandsworth London
COOK, Florence Daughter F 8 1903 Brixton London
COOK, Edward Son M 7 1904 Loughbough London
COOK, Henry Son M 5 1906 Brixton London
COOK, Elizabeth Daughter F 3 1908 Brixton London
COOK, Sidney Son M 1 1910 Brixton London
COOK, Hilda Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Merton Aubrey

RG number: RG14 Piece: 3487 Reference: RG14PN3487 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED25 SN185
Registration District: Kingston Sub District: Wimbledon Enumeration District: 25 Parish: Wimbledon
Address: 48 Leyton Road Wimbledon County: Surrey