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Wayne


Looks like Woonton married again in 1980 I'll pm the details

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Excellent news Wayne

Thanks for getting back to us

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Mystery Bride Sonia.. Resolved.. 2nd marriage cert arrived & her Woonton surname came from a prev. unknown 1st marriage of a "living" Woonton so scratch one stray & some extra detail for the Tree. Thanks all who helped, offered advice. Cheers Wayne

Wayne

Come back and let us when you get the cert and if you need anything else just shout

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OK.. I had a look at at that Sudbury marriage & noted the Grooms particular set of forname initials.. they match a Woonton in our Tree who we have as married but it's a later marriage so strong possibility that it is he in the Sudbury marriage to Sonia Payne .. a first of two for him So yes, I'll order another marriage cert. tonight ! Again, Thanks to all. Regards Wayne

Think I may have misposted my reply so will try again.. Many thanks for your input ..Sonia's antecedentants seem established now, with her parents marriage/mothers birth.. so now .. that marriage in Sudbury in 1971 is interesting.. perhaps a spelling error in the '71 example as Sonia clearly spells out surname as Woonton in the '77 certificate however our tree has no marriage to either a Bray, Hartley or Payne so the search goes on
Thanks Wayne

Hi All, Hi Ginny & thanks for your PM.s Apologies 4 delay in getting back.. been to airport seeing Son off on a trip to Asia.. Your PM establishes Sonia's antecedentants.. so now Caroljay.. that marriage in Sudbury in 1971 is interesting.. perhaps a spelling error in the '71 example as Sonia clearly spells out surname as Woonton in the '77 certificate however our tree has no marriage to either a Bray, Hartley or Payne

Ive done it myself.....1877 and 1977 seem to mingle into one!

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Thanks Ginny - have now deleted them

Ive sent the birth of Sonia, her parents marriage and her mothers first marriage and birth by PM as these are recent BMD and people may still be alive

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I found a marriage in Sudbury, Suffok in 1971 of Sonia M Payne to a Woolton.

Well done on the cert....we now have a birth and a marriage for her parents which I will send you by PM

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Hi all.. well, I got the marriage cert for my mystery Sonia ( age 25).. says that both she and her Ralph had been married previousely so her maiden name ? Well her dad signed the certificate, 4th Nov 1977, as John Francis Payne so I then look for an earlier Woonton / Payne marriage and find.. Nothing. So Sonia is still a mystery to Me & the Tree.. what next I ask.. ?

Hi all.. Well I can confirm, by dates, that Sonia, is not related to any of the Pacific Island descendants so Yes, I'll be going for the Marriage Cert & hoping its not a blowout like the last one was.
Thanks all for your considerations & I'll report back in due course
Regards
Wayne

There is a Ralph Tilton who is on the list of Patrons of Bristol Musical Comedy Club. No reason to think he is or isn't yours. Just found him when I Googled the name.

Jill

Wayne, same as Ginny I did that search too. I also tried any variations I could think of like Wooton and Worton. I agree with her that she wasn't born England or Wales or might even have been adopted.

Go for the marriage cert and quickly too please because I'm desperate now to know the answer :)

Jill

Theres no 'Sonia' marrying a 'Woonton' so it looks like she was not married previously

So, if there is no birth for her either under that name she could have born ouside Eng/Wales or even adopted

As said before your only option is the marriage certificate

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Hmm. What a good mystery. Change of name, misspelling, change of identity?

I input Ralph Tilton into births on here and the only one to show up is the Ralph G Tilton born 1940 in Bristol.

But input into marriages and two show up so I think they are the same Ralph. I've tried to prove it by looking for the death of his possible first wife Janice. There are a lot of possibles. Or of course they could be divorced. If my theory is right and Sonia is a second wife, is it possible that she is from a totally unconnected branch eg from the group in Fiji? It would be possible that this was not her first marriage.

I'd love to know what you find out.

Jill

On 192.com it says Sonia M Tilton.
on marriage record Sonia N Woonton.

Maryb

Jonesy, Jillian, I'm part of a fairly complete Woonton tree but this pair popped up on Ancestry with the usual copy of marriages reg. in that quarter and we simply, are not able to find a home for Sonia in what we think are fairly complete family groups in that timeframe... seems to be no children of the union either
The Luisa, from the web reference you provided Jillian, is not connected, she is a few Oceans away, in Fiji I think.
Thanks anyway. Wayne