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Hi,
I'm trying to locate the mum and dad of this lady.
In the 1911 Census
Henrietta Scivier - Age 32. It says she's married to Arthur Dyson. I found a few entries for H. with an entry for H. Scivier born in Norwood Surrey but am not sure if it's one and the same. I cannot find any record of marriage for H. and A. (although it says in the census record that they had been married for 10 years). I also found a death record for a Henrietta who died around 1939 in Bristol, could she be the same. So, in a nutshell I would be grateful for any information regarding this lady (her marriage to Arthur) and or her parents. Many, many thanks.

1911

DYSON, Arthur Henry Head Married M 37 1874 Carman Coalman Augate VIEW
DYSON, Henrietta Wife Married
10 years F 32 1879 Hanley Penge VIEW
DYSON, Edith Lilian Daughter F 9 1902 Tooting Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Albert Son M 6 1905 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Dorothy Daughter F 4 1907 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Arthur Henry Son M 3 1908 Tooting Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Winnie Violet Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
SHILLAM, Alfred Boarder Married M 39 1872 Carman Camberwell London VIEW
SHILLAM, William G Boarder M 12 1899 School Camberwell London VIEW

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3487 Reference:
RG14PN3487 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED25 SN83

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Wimbledon Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Wimbledon

Address:
7 Laburnum Road Wimbledon County:
Surrey

(for reference)

Chris :)

How do you know her maiden name if you havent found a marriage?

I take it this is the 1911 you refer too
DYSON, Arthur Henry Head Married M 37 1874 Carman Coalman Augate VIEW
DYSON, Henrietta Wife Married
10 years F 32 1879 Hanley Penge VIEW
DYSON, Edith Lilian Daughter F 9 1902 Tooting Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Albert Son M 6 1905 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Dorothy Daughter F 4 1907 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Arthur Henry Son M 3 1908 Tooting Surrey VIEW
DYSON, Winnie Violet Daughter F 0 (7 MONTHS) 1911 Wimbledon Surrey VIEW
SHILLAM, Alfred Boarder Married M 39 1872 Carman Camberwell London VIEW
SHILLAM, William G Boarder M 12 1899 School Camberwell London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3487 Reference:
RG14PN3487 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED25 SN83

Registration District:
Kingston Sub District:
Wimbledon Enumeration District:
25 Parish:
Wimbledon

Address:
7 Laburnum Road Wimbledon County:
Surrey

this would confirm mums name
Name: DYSON, Winifred V
Registration District: Kingston
County: Surrey
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 2A
Page No: 382

Hi, I have a birth certificate copy of Albert Edward (listed in the census, born 1904) and his mother is listed as Henrietta (formerly Scivier).

???????

Births Jun 1881 (>99%)
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Scivier Henrietta Croydon 2a 200


No other record for the name on freebmd

Croydon District includes PENGE

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
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Dyson Harold C Scivier Bristol 6a 121

1881

SCIVIER, George Head Married M 33 1848 Carman
Bishops Gate VIEW
SCIVIER, Mary Wife Married F 29 1852
Barking
Essex VIEW
SCIVIER, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1878
Marylebone
Middlesex VIEW
SCIVIER, George Son Single M 1 1880
Anerley
Surrey VIEW
SCIVIER, Henrietta Daughter Single F 0 1881
Norwood
Surrey VIEW
HICKS, Alfred Nephew Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Tottenham
Middlesex VIEW
BROWN, William Boarder Widower M 40 1841 Gen Laborer
Kingston
Surrey VIEW
HOWSON, William Visitor Single M 50 1831 Gen Laborer
Portsmouth
Hampshire VIEW

RG number:
RG11 Piece:
819 Folio:
47 Page:
24

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
Croydon Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Croydon Municipal Borough:
Address:
6, Cobden Rd, Glen Cottages, Croydon County:
Surrey

1891

Name: George Scivier
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Scivier
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Wandsworth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub-registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Scivier 40
Mary Scivier 42
Mary Scivier 14
George Scivier 11
Lucy Scivier 10
Annie Scivier 8
Alfred Scivier 3
William Scivier 2

This looks a likely marriage for the parents -

Marriages Dec 1879
BLAKE Anna Dan Croydon 2a 431
Blake Anne Dan Croydon 2a 431
************SCIVIER George Croydon 2a 431
************TUBESS Mary Croydon 2a 431
WARD John Croydon 2a 431

1901

Name: George Seivier
[George Scivier]
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Winchester, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: South Wimbledon
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Kingston
Sub-registration district: Wimbledon
ED, institution, or vessel: 33
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
George Seivier 57
Henrietta Seivier 20
Henry A Seivier 13
William Seivier 12
Frederick Seivier 9
Ellen Seivier 8
Albert E Seivier 5
Maud F Seivier 2

Perhaps Arthur had a wife elsewhere?

Marriages Dec 1898 (>99%)
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Craddock Eliza Jane Wandsworth 1d 1318
DYSON Arthur Henry Wandsworth 1d 1318
Hicks Helena Wandsworth 1d 1318
Smith Frederick Thomas Wandsworth 1d 1318

doesnt look like they married.

Is this the death to which you referred?

Deaths Jun 1941 (>99%)
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Dyson Henrietta 58 Bristol 6a 105

Name: Arthur Henry Dyson
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Spouse Name: Helena Hicks
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1898
Parish: St Mary, Summerstown
County: Surrey
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name Alfred Dyson
Spouse Father Name Robert Hicks


Name: Lilian Edith Dyson
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1899
Baptism Date: 14 Apr 1899
Father's Name: Arthur Henry Dyson
Mother's Name: Helen Dyson
Parish or Poor Law Union: Tooting Graveney
Borough: Wandsworth

(image gives birthdate 4th Feb 1900)

(agrees with theory of Flick) :-)

Chris :)

edits, and Shirley

1901 (for Arthur)

DOYSON, Arthur H Head Married M 28 1873 Laundry Carman
London VIEW
DOYSON, Ellen Wife Married F 23 1878
Surrey VIEW
DOYSON, Lilian E Daughter Single F 1 (14 MOS) 1900
Tooting
Surrey VIEW
DOYSON, May Daughter Single F 0 (1 MOS) 1901
Tooting
Surrey VIEW
DOYSON, Cariline Mother Widow F 63 1838 Dom Servant
Guildford
Surrey VIEW

RG number:
RG13 Piece:
469 Folio:
126 Page:
43

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Streatham Enumeration District:
5 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Tooting Traveney All Saints

Civil Parish:
Tooting Graveney Municipal Borough:
Address:
22, Kellino Street, Tooting Graveney County:
London

Thanks,
Any advice on how I go about finding out if it was George in Winchester or George in London that was her dad? I'm sorry to appear thick but I'm getting very confused.

1851

SEIVIER, Sarah Head Widow F 75 1776 Occupier House & Land
Goreley
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, George Son Married M 35 1816 Laborer
Newgrounds
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, Susana Daughter-In-Law Married F 32 1819
Woodgreen
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, William Grand Son M 10 1841 Scholar
Newgrounds
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, Mary Grand Daughter F 9 1842 Scholar
Newgrounds
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, George Grand Son M 6 1845 Scholar
Newgrounds
Hampshire VIEW
SEIVIER, Robert Grand Son M 3 1848
Newgrounds
Hampshire VIEW

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1667 Folio:
638 Page:
3

Registration District:
Ringwood Sub District:
Fordingbridge Enumeration District:
2,14,13 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Extra Parochial Municipal Borough:
Address:
New Grounds, Extra Parochial County:
Hampshire

says Scivier on image...

Chris :)

Please help me I'm so confused. How do I find if the George of London is her dad or George in Hampshire.

Hello Dee,
would be advisable to get the Birth cert. of Henrietta, to confirm that George is her father, (looks that way, best to sure though) the details are posted earlier.

Does look like George came from Hampshire, he needs following through Census entries and freeBMD for his birth, (could be spelt differently), and getting his marriage Cert. too 1879, as posted earlier.

Don't let it confuse you, take it a step at a time :-)

Chris :)

*edits* 1911 census below says Hampshire...


SCIVIER, George Head Married M 64 1847 Carman Bishopstoke Hants
SCIVIER, Mary Wife Married
36 years F 60 1851 Essex Barting
SCIVIER, William Son Single M 22 1889 Butcher Assistant London Wandsworth
SCIVIER, Fredeach Son Single M 19 1892 Messenger London Wandsworth
SCIVIER, Ellen Daughter Single F 18 1893 Servant Domestic London Wandsworth
SCIVIER, Albert Son Single M 15 1896 Errand Boy Surrey Wimbledon
SCIVIER, Maud Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Girl Surrey Wimbledon

RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2362 Reference:
RG14PN2362 RG78PN78B RD26 SD5 ED77 SN381

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Streatham Enumeration District:
77 Parish:
Wandsworth Borough

Address:
114 Mellison Road Tooting S W County:
London


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about George Scivier
Name: George Scivier
Death Registration Month/Year: 1923
Age at death (estimated): 74
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 502