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Yes, perhaps I should write them a letter (as they are ex-directory) and just hope that they are receptive enough to want to look into the family and pass on their info to me. It can't hurt to try I suppose.

Thanks for the info about this Edward because it looks worth following up more so I will look into it.
I think I am becoming obsessed with wanting to find out what happened to my grandparents, but hope you will have nicer dreams!
Anne

I am suspecting this is the same person. Just has to be connected don't you think? I would be inclined to bite the bullet and contact Victor's daughters if you can. Not necessary to tell the whole story at this point.

I know it's a bit off-centre, but found this 1911. I wonder if a family member? Note birthplace of daughter. In 1901 Edward is a mechanical engineer living in Birmingham, in the right general area
I shall be dreaming about the Partington's soon!!

PARTINGTON, Edward Henry Head Married M 41 1870 Engineer Paper Works Lancashire Bury VIEW
PARTINGTON, Mary Wife Married
18 years F 40 1871 Derbyshire Glossop VIEW
PARTINGTON, Frank Son Single M 17 1894 Correspondence Clerk Shipping Office Lancashire Salford VIEW
PARTINGTON, Gertrude Mary Daughter F 12 1899 School Warwickshire Bgham VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
23993 Reference:
RG14PN23993 RG78PN1382 RD465 SD2 ED17 SN180

Registration District:
Salford Sub District:
Broughton Enumeration District:
17 Parish:
Broughton

Address:
4 Lucy Street Broughton Salford County:
Lancashire

Hello Jan,
Yes, I tend to agree that we should try concentrating on Victor's parents, George Henry Partington and Helen Mary Fisher in London.
The occupation of Edward Partington on the birth certs of my mother and her brother were listed as: Works Mngr, General Engineering in 1919 and Tube Works Mngr in 1918. The occupation for George Henry Partington in 1923 is shown as General Engineer, Newspaper works and then on marriage cert of their son, Victor, in 1950, as Engineer. So, there is a similarity in profession for Edward and George Henry.

Anne

Hi Anne.
One thing I don't think we checked is the occupation of your grandfather and Victor's father - do they match?
I am also wondering why they left in such a dramatic way. I can only think of 2 possibilities - either one or both committed a crime, or Helen/Vera ran off with a brother! Sheer speculation of course. Maybe we need to look for their deaths in case they offer some clues. It could be a co-incidence but I think we need to stick with Victor for now.
Jan

PM:

Hello Janet,
I finally received the birth cert for Victor only a couple of days ago but I have been away so couldn't get in touch with you until today. I also received the marriage cert for Victor which I decided to apply for as well.

Unfortunately, it is not conclusive as the parents of Victor are listed as Henry Partington and Helen Mary Fisher on his birth cert and on the marriage cert of Victor in 1950 the father is listed as George Henry Partington. The parents listed on my mother's birth cert are Edward Partington and Helen Fisher. The birth cert for my mother's elder brother, Edward, show the parents as Edward Partington and Vera Helen Fisher.

I cannot find a marriage cert for the parents of Victor so it doesn't help me to verify or eliminate them as being the same parents of my mother. It seems a bit of a coincidence though that I can't locate a marriage cert for Victor's parents, just as I can' t for my mother's parents

I'm not sure what to do next as am reluctant to contact Victor's children when I don't have any concrete information.
I have also contacted Vanessa Edwards to keep her updated as she helped me with the link on the message board.Regards,

Anne, have you ever asked for a passenger list lookup in case they emigrated?
Also, is there another address on the other child's birth cert?
Jan

Hello Vanessa,
Thank you, but unfortunately when I checked this one myself I found that they are Ewart William Fisher and Adela Victoria Partington so the surnames are the wrong sexes for me as the father is Partington and the mother is Fisher.

Thanks, Brummiejan. I did see this John and Sarah at 87 Albert Rd and I will follow up in case they are linked somehow with my Vera/Helen Fisher and possibly also the Walter Henry Fisher.

Probably irrelevant but anyway:

FISHER, John Head Married M 52 1859 Gold Ring Maker Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
FISHER, Sarah Ann Edith Wife Married
27 years F 50 1861 Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
FISHER, Edith Elsie Daughter Single F 25 1886 Shorthand Typist Warwickshire Birmingham VIEW
FISHER, Walter John Son Single M 20 1891 Gold Ring Maker Warwickshire Sutton Coldfield VIEW
FISHER, Hilda Grace Daughter Single F 16 1895 School Warwickshire Sutton Coldfield VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
17226 Reference:
RG14PN17226 RG78PN1059 RD371 SD1 ED21 SN227

Registration District:
West Bromwich Sub District:
Handsworth Enumeration District:
21 Parish:
Handsworth

Address:
87 Albert Road Handsworth County:
Staffordshire

Thank you, Jonesey, I think it will be useful for me to look at this site as I didn't know about it. I will try 1920 onwards as I have address for Edward Partington for 1918 and 1919.

PM'd details of another potential sibling or avenue to explore?

I keep wondering about this one??

Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Brigginshaw Florence A Tompkins Hendon 3a 560
>>> Fisher Ewart W Partington Hendon 3a 560
>>> Partington Adela V Fisher Hendon 3a 560
Tompkins William Brigginshaw Hendon 3a 560

But maybe not!!

Births Sep 1886 (>99%)
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Partington Adela Victoria Hendon 3a 160

Hello Ginny
Thanks for your help. This Edward Charles Partington is the brother of my mother but we know nothing more of him than this birth cert. I have checked with Traceline and various adoption agencies but they could find no record of him around 1920 when he was abandoned. My mother was very luckily taken in by a neighbour and brought up by them but never saw her brother again as they were separated in 1920.
Sorry for the confusion as Edward Charles is son of Helen/Vera Fisher and Edward Partington. The Walter Henry Fisher is just someone listed as living at same address as Helen & Edward in 1918 but, as I am trying any and every avenue I can, I wondered if there may be a connection somewhere within the Fisher families.
Helen/Vera Fisher and Edward Partington seem to have disappeared from all records after 1919. Edward Partington is not listed in the war records as have already checked these.

If you wish to checkout the 1918 Birmingham Absent voters list you can do so online at the site below. There is a small charge but it might be worth it. You can search by name and/or address.

http://www.midlandshistoricaldata.org

Good luck

Hello Jonesy,
A few years ago a genealogist tried to find info for me but was only able to find the birth cert of my mother's brother (they were separated when she was one year old and we don't know what happened to him). This genealogist found in the Kellys Directory 1920 that Walter Fisher lived at this address from 1915-1920 and she told me that he was also listed in the voting list in 1918.

There is Walter harry Fisher born Kings Norton 1888 but looking at census reports no sign of a Vera/Helen.

Hello Vanessa,
thanks for checking, but the Gloucester Vera Helen has already been checked and discounted as she lived, married and died in Glos area.

???


1911 census - household transcription
Person: FISHER, Vera Helen
Address: 9 Sandhurst Road Gloucester

FISHER, Vera Helen Daughter Single F 22 1889 Assistant Teacher Gloster Glostershire VIEW
FISHER, Edna Daughter Single F 17 1894 School Gloster Glostershire VIEW
GREESWELL, Mary Boarder Single F 51 1860 Private Means St Marys Taunton Somerset VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
15283 Reference:
RG14PN15283 RG78PN925 RD325 SD2 ED3 SN421

Registration District:
Gloucester Sub District:
Gloucester Northern Enumeration District:
3 Parish:
Gloucester

Address:
9 Sandhurst Road Gloucester County:
Gloucestershire

Sorry for confusion everyone who has kindly responded. Helen Vera Fisher and Edward Partington are parents of my mother and her brother. In my research the only possible clue I found was that a Walter Henry Fisher is listed as living at 17 Albert Rd, Handsworth, Birmingham in 1918, which is same address as noted on the birth cert of my mother's brother. I don't know if he is anything to do with my Vera/Helen Fisher but feel it is the only clue I have at this stage to follow up.
I have been searching on web for months but as cannot find any marriage cert for Helen/Vera Fisher & Edward Partington, I don't have any info to try to find their birth or death certs. I don't know their ages or their parents names.
Have found parents of Walter Henry Fisher who are Amy Arnoll Quick & Frank Fisher (married 4/8/1890) but can't find if they had any other children such as my Helen/Vera Fisher or if my Helen/Vera is possibly a cousin etc.

Looks to be the only Vera Helen likely to have a child 1920 +/- a coulple of years:

Births Dec 1888 (>99%)
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FISHER Vera Helen Gloucester 6a 287

Couldnt find any Helen Vera's registered