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Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 09:19

Can anyone find Clement Press b1848 born London in the 1851 I have a sub to Ancestry but cannot find him, he was the son of Clement and Sophia
Many thanks
Ann

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 09:29

Have you found the family on a later census? Might help to see them.
Jan

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Feb 2011 09:30

His baptism???

Name: Clement Press
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1849
Baptism Date: 15 Jan 1849
Father's name: Clement Press
Mother's name: Sophia Brown
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster

Born 16/12/1848

Fathers occupation: Shoemaker

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 09:49

I have him on all the othercensus except 1851, they are showing his birth as 1851 not 1848, but his bapt has been found for 1849

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 09:52

Can you paste 1861 onto here please? I can only see the Clement with parents Thomas and Jane.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Feb 2011 09:52

1851

PRESS, Thomas Head Married M 39 1812 Tailor
Somersetshire VIEW
PRESS, Jane Wife Married F 32 1819
London VIEW
PRESS, Thomas Son M 13 1838
London VIEW
PRESS, Henry Son M 11 1840
London VIEW
PRESS, Caroline Daughter F 7 1844
London VIEW
PRESS, Sarah Daughter F 5 1846
London VIEW
PRESS, Jane Daughter F 3 1848
London VIEW
PRESS, Clement Son F 0 (3 MOS) 1851
London VIEW

RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1526 Folio:
89 Page:
30

Registration District:
West London Sub District:
North Enumeration District:
1C Ecclesiastical Parish:
New Street

Civil Parish:
Saint Bartholomew Great Municipal Borough:
London Address:
Cloth Fair, Saint Bartholomew Great, London County:
Middlesex

Is this your one?, father Thomas...

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 09:54

Jut checked and I dont have him in 1861

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Feb 2011 09:56


Name: Slement Press
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1855
Baptism Date: 27 May 1855
Father's name: Thomas Press
Mother's name: Jane Press
Parish or Poor Law Union: All Hallows London Wall
Borough: City of London

Born 28th Dec 1850, fathers occ. Tailor

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 09:56

Can we back-track a bit? I assume you have got back to "your" Clement somehow. Do you have a marriage cert for him, hence knowing his father's name?
It would be helpful to put him on any census you have him on. I think you might be looking at the wrong Clement?
Jan

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Feb 2011 09:57

There is obviously more than one Clement Press. Which one are you researching.

Is this one yours?

Name: Clement Press
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Spouse Name: Georgina Thorburn
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1872
Parish: St Mary
County: Middlesex
Borough: Islington
Father Name: Thomas Press
Spouse Father Name: James Thorburn

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 15 Feb 2011 10:00

(apologies for leaving folks, but have to go out in a min) :-)

Chris :)

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 10:00

I dont have the marriage cert, on ancestry, his marriage to Georgina Thorburn in 1872 shows his father as Clement ( I think that is where I got his fathers name from

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 10:00

I notice that the 1849 Clement was baptised in a workhouse, not sure what this might signify. Can't see any evidence of Clement and Sophia together or a marriage for them.
Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 10:01

What is his occupation and who are the witnesses?


Just so we can see him somewhere!

1881 England Census

Name: Clement Press
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Georgiana Press
Gender: Male
Where born: St Boloph, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 101 St Johns Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Drapers Warehouseman

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Hoxton Old Town

Clement Press 30
Georgiana Press 29
Alice M. Press 8
Clement Press 6
Albert H. Press 1

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 10:03

Ah so his father was Thomas

Jonesey

Jonesey Report 15 Feb 2011 10:04

Whisky,

I think that you have got your wires crossed somewhere.

The marriage certificate clearly names Clement's father as Thomas Press, a tailor.

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 10:04

Yes that is him in 1881

Whisky Soda

Whisky Soda Report 15 Feb 2011 10:06

I think I certainly do, that means the baptism that someone found for me with parents of Clement and Sophia is incorrect ( the year was wrong )
and it means the 61 above is correct

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 10:07

1911 if you don't have it:

PRESS, Clement Head Married M 60 1851 Mantle Manufacturers Assistant City of London VIEW
PRESS, Georgina Wife Married
38 years F 59 1852 Cadogan Cottages West End of London VIEW
PRESS, Sidney Edward Son Single M 22 1889 Armature Winder St Lenards Shoreditch VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
903 Reference:
RG14PN903 RG78PN32 RD10 SD6 ED1 SN224

Registration District:
Islington Sub District:
Islington South East Enumeration District:
1 Parish:
Islington

Address:
173 Southgate Road Islington London N County:
London

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 15 Feb 2011 10:07

1861 England Census

Name: Clement Press
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Press
Mother's name: Jane Press
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: All Hallows London Wall
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: London City
Sub-registration district: London City North East

Thomas Press 48
Jane Press 42
Thomas Press 23
Caroline Press 17
Sarah Press 15
Jane Press 12
Clement Press 10