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Hi,the name is Graham, you can e-mail me at [email protected] is my Foster family.Samuel Foster was born in Little Leigh and lived in Knutsford. they have an intriguing history.I don't know what happened to John Henry, but his son,Clarence grew up in Knutsford, married a woman, surnamed Flatters, and was a postman. Please get in touch. Regards,Graham

Any ideas, anyone, as to how I might find a death date for John Henry Foster, born Aston, Cheshire abt. 1865/66?

Your help is much appreciated, thank you.

Clarence moved to Cheshire to live with his paternal grandparents; my dad always said that his father [John Henry's brother] and mother often discussed Clarence's 'situation' but would stop talking when my dad came into the room - and he was never considered old enough to know! Family lore is that John Henry died young, possibly 1900 -01? but I can't find anything to confirm this. He's not with his brothers anyway, wherever he is. Anything is possible with this lot!

I wonder if John Henry "kept" Clarence while Mary Ann stayed with her (neighbour?) and the girls? Have you found John's siblings in 1901 in Cheshire? He may be with a brother or sister. ?? Good luck!

G

Oh! That makes sense!!! I don't see John anywhere,darn it.

I found the "Wallaces" by doing a search for Ada-born Warwickshire in London and that one was pretty obvious.

Tricky bunch!!

Maureen

Oh Maureen! The plot thickens... the first names are right, and I have just found a baptism record for Sydney W W Keeves - Sydney William Wallace Keeves... and his father has the same names! Are they living under an alias? How exciting.... but where is John Henry? However did you think to look them up as Wallace?!

Lots to think about here; thank you to everyone - give yourselves several gold stars!!

Just putting FMPasts version of that Wallace bunch:



1901 census transcription details for: 78a, Goldsmith Row, Shoreditch

National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13 Piece: 279 Folio: 117 Page: 3


Reg. District: Shoreditch Sub District: Haggerston
Parish: Shoreditch Enum. District: 14
Ecclesiastical District: St Stephens Haggerston City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 78a, Goldsmith Row, Shoreditch
County: London
WALLACE, Sydney Head Married M 35 1866 Commercial Traveller
Woolwich
WALLACE, Annie Wife Married F 36 1865 School Mistess
Knutsford Cheshire
WALLACE, Ada Daughter Single F 9 1892
Marton Warwickshire
WALLACE, Sybil Daughter Single F 4 1897
Islington London
WALLACE, Violet Daughter Single F 2 1899
Islington London
WALLACE, Elsie Daughter Single F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Hackney London

It's the Fosters,I think-minus dad.

Maureen

Baptism record for Elsie Amy Olga Foster June 1900 - father John Henry, a Schoolmaster, mother Mary Ann. Address is 76 Goldsmith's Row, Bethnal Green. Can anyone do an address look-up on 1901 census?

G

So who are these people???
1901 Ancestry
Name: Ada Wallace
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Sydney Wallace
Mother's name: Annie Wallace
Gender: Female
Where born: Marton, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Shoreditch St Leonard
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Sydney Wallace 35
Annie Wallace 36
Ada Wallace 9
Lybil Wallace 4
Violet Wallace 2
Elsie Wallace 10 Months
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 279; Folio: 117; Page: 3.

Maureen

William Keeves

England and Wales Census, 1881
birth: 1864 — Woolwich, Kent, England
residence: Bethnal Green, London, Middlesex, England
parents: W. Keeves

You have put Elsie A O Hackney 1891, do you mean this one:
Births Jun 1900
Foster Elsie Amy O Shoreditch 1c 109

Have you found William Keeves in 1901?

Thanks

1881

W. KEEVES Head W Female 42 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Weaveress (Silk)
William KEEVES Son U Male 17 Woolwich, Kent, England Warehouseman (Shellac)
Martha KEEVES Daur U Female 15 Woolwich, Kent, England Servant (Fish Monger)
Samuel KEEVES Son Male 14 Woolwich, Kent, England Van Lad Tea Merchant
Rachael KEEVES Daur Female 12 Spitalfields, Kent, England Scholar
Alfred KEEVES Son Male 10 Spitalfields, Kent, England Scholar
Joseph KEEVES Son Male 3 Furville St, Kent, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 76 Hare St
Census Place London, Middlesex, England
Family History Library Film 1341093
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 0431 / 98
Page Number 42

Samuel Foster

England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
residence: , Little Leigh, Cheshire, England
parents: Wm Foster, Anne

record title: England, Cheshire Bishop's Transcripts, 1598-1900
name: Samuel Foster
gender: Male
event type: Christening
christening date: 25 Feb 1838
christening place: Little Leigh, Cheshire, England
father's name: Wm Foster
mother's name: Anne
principal's residence: , Little Leigh, Cheshire, England
digital folder number: 4008153

John Foster

England and Wales Census, 1861
birth: Marton, Lincolnshire

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: John Foster
age: 32
gender: Male
birthplace: Marton, Lincolnshire
relationship to head of household: Head
record type:

John Foster

England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
residence: , Marton (near Congleton), Cheshire, England

record title: England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991
name: John Foster
gender: Male
burial date: 12 Oct 1615
burial place: Marton (near Congleton), Cheshire, England
indexing project (batch) number: I09589-2
system origin: Part 1 - 1
source film number:

John William Foster

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
residence: Marton, Lancashire, England
parents: Robert Foster, Alice Foster

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John William Foster
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 13 Mar 1892
baptism/christening place: Marton, Lancashire, England
father's name: Robert Foster
mother's name: Alice Foster
indexing project (batch) number: I03175-9
system origin: England-EASy
source film number: 1526408

Have you got any of the birth certificates, to see who is the claimed Father?
e.g.:
Births Sep 1898
Foster Violet May G Islington 1b 382

Clarence H Foster

England and Wales Census, 1891
birth: Marton, Warwickshire
residence: England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Clarence H Foster
age: 2
gender: Male
birthplace: Marton, Warwickshire
relationship to head of household: Son
record type:

In the 1891 Census, John Henry Foster was living in Marton, Warwickshire with his wife Mary Ann [born c.1865, Knutsford, Cheshire] and their son Clarence Henry Arthur [aged 2, born in Marton] in the school house - John Henry and Mary Ann were the schoolmaster/mistress there.

In 1901 Clarence [12] is living with his paternal grandparents in Knutsford, Cheshire. [ Samuel Foster, born Little Leigh, Cheshire 1838 and Mary Ann, born Knutsford, Cheshire, 1851] Clarence stays in Cheshire [until 1911 and beyond] - I know about him, but I can't find John Henry nor his Mary Ann anywhere!

Mary Ann appears in the 1911 census as a widow, now married to a William Keeves [born abt. 1864 in Woolwich] They have been married for 5 years - and I have found the record of their marriage in Bethnal Green 1906; they have two children together, born prior to the marriage - Sydney W W Keeves, aged 9 and Dorothy E.A. Keeves aged 5.

BUT - there are also 4 previously unknown Fosters; Ada M. L. born about 1891 in Marton, Warwickshire, Sybil M F born 1897 in Islington, Violet M G born 1898 in Islington, and Elsie A.O. 1891 in Hackney. These Fosters are my dad's cousins. Where were they in 1901?

I can't think where to look; I can't find a death date for John Henry; I don't know if Mary Ann did a runner...

I NEED to know what happened to John Henry; I don't know quite why it matters so much to me; I didn't know of his existence until about 3 weeks ago...