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Would be grateful in any help finding the death record of James Lynch. DOB/birthplace both unknown???

Do know he married Florence Rosina Wingfield in 1902, Birmingham.

On his wedding certificate he was aged 26, labourer. Father, listed as Thomas Lynch, deceased (bricklayer).

Florence Rosina Wingfield remarried in 1917 to Frederick William Valentine Hooper.

Would be most grateful of any help.

Thank you

A possible in 1881:

LYNCH, Thomas Head Married M 55 1826 Bricklayers Laborer Ireland
LYNCH, Ann Wife Married F 45 1836 Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, John Son Single M 22 1859 Glass Blower Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, Owen Son Single M 20 1861 Iron Caster Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, William Son Single M 18 1863 Brass Caster Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 15 1866 Umbrella Press Worker Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, Thomas Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar Birmm Warwickshire
LYNCH, James Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar Birmm Warwickshire

Registration District: Aston Sub District: Erdington
Civil Parish: Aston Municipal Borough:

Address: 154, Back Of, Wilton St, Aston County: Warwickshire

Might be easier to see if we can find Florence 1911. I can see her marriage but not her birth on Freebmd. Do you have her details?
jan

Thank you for your quick repsonse. I do believe the details you have searched are that of our James Lynch. We are still to find his record of death.

Thank you again

Hello Rachel, it would help if we could find Rachel in the 1911 to see if she was married or a widow then.

As Jan asked, could you give us her details from the marriage certificate.

Do you have Florence's details from the marriage certificate please - age & father's name?

Brummiejan

Thank you for your swift reply.

Florence Rosina Wingfield was born in birmingham in 1881. Her father, Charles and mother Harriet Wingfield.

Hope this helps

Florence Rosina Wingfield

Age at marriage on certificate is 24 (not sure this is correct??)

Father - Charles Wingfield (Spur Maker)

Many thanks

Rachel

Odd
Sorry wrong year

Used her maiden name for 2nd marriage - quite unusual. I wonder if james died or absconded!

Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%)
Wingfield Florence R Hooper Kings N. 6d 194

Astra, would you mind posting the 1911 again please? Such a co-incidence would like another look.
jan

Thank you brummiejan

Yes, we had noticed on her second marriage cert she did use her maiden name, Wingfield, and the wrong age. Also have noticed she used 'spinster' as status. Would it be possible to find if the marriage was anulled or if she divorced? if not is was bigamy!!!

I posted the wrong one Jan it was the 1901

Just to get our bearings, Florence in 1891:

WINGFIELD, Charles S Head Married M 49 1842 Spur Maker Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Harriett Wife Married F 49 1842 Birmingham
WINGFIELD, George Son Single M 20 1871 Polisher Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Joseph Son Single M 18 1873 Brassfounder Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Annie Daughter Single F 16 1875 Chainmaker Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Caroline P Daughter F 14 1877 Chainmaker Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Harry Son M 12 1879 Scholar Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Florence R Daughter F 10 1881 Scholar Birmingham
WINGFIELD, James Son M 8 1883 Scholar Birmingham
WINGFIELD, Albert Son M 4 1887 Scholar Birmingham

Registration District: Birmingham Sub District: St George Enumeration District: 20 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Stephens

Civil Parish: Birmingham Municipal Borough: Birmingham

Address: 36, Geach Street, Birmingham County: Warwickshire

Can find Florence's mother on 1911 in Kings norton. She is living with Harry (32) and his niece Elsie (14). No sign of Florence so far.

Harriet Wingfield
Relationship to Head of Household Mother
Condition / Years Married Widow
Gender F
Age 70
Estimated Year of Birth 1841
Occupation Non
Employed N
Working at Home N
Place of Birth Wilsomst North Bham
Enumerator Information
Address 39 North Road Bournbrook
Parish Northfield
Town Bournbrook
Type of Building Private House
Number of Rooms 5
Inhabited Y
Reference RG14PN17864 RG78PN1091 RD383 SD1 ED41 SN80
Administrative County Worcestershire
Registration District Kings Norton
Registration Sub District Kings Norton
Enumeration District 41

Was Florence living with Frederick before they married?

HOOPER, Frederic Head Married M 28 1883 Music Hall Attendant Worcester Worcestershire
HOOPER, Florence Wife Married 3 years F 27 1884 Birmingham Warwickshire
MORRISS, Beatrice Boarder F 9 1902 Birmingham Warwickshire

RG number: RG14 Piece: 18133 Reference: RG14PN18133 RG78PN1098 RD384 SD4 ED30 SN233

Registration District: Birmingham Sub District: St Martin Enumeration District: 30 Parish: Birmingham

Address: 49 Inge Street Birmingham County: Warwickshire

Edit: I can't at first look see a marriage that ties into the 3 years that they claim.

Nice find - should be easy to confirm or exclude with his occupation!

Rachel mentioned that Florence used the wrong age on her second marriage, she might have lopped a few years off to hide that she's older than Frederick.

It'll be interesting to see if Rachel has Frederick's occupation from marriage certificate.

Thank you all for your help/info. Sorry didnt reply straight away, had a break for tea!!!

On Frederick & Florences marriage certificate, dated 19th May 1917.
Frederick was 34 yrs old and he was a clerk/time keeper at a metal works, and they both lived at 36 North Rd, selly oak.

Does it give his father's name & occupation?