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I think a trip to the North Yorkshire records office is called for and a trawl through all the records. thanks again.
Marian

I can't get any further on the census. But have googled John Horsley and found the following:

He was parish clerk Crakewell 1843, 44 & 50, parish records may reveal more about him. His is listed in the 1840 Whites directory farmer from Crakewell.

Also the 1857 Post Office trades directory lists Matthew & John Horsley farmers at Scrayingham, Buckrose (10miles NE of York), but don't know if this is the same John - probably not as his wife is Ann on the 1861 census.

There is also a farmer John Horsley (80) with wife Mary (50) on the 1861 census at Hutton Ambro, Malton - he died 2/2/1862, could this be his father with 2nd wife?

He had quite a large farm (for the era), but unfortunately the address or name of farm is not given on the 1851 census to try an address search in 1861.

Not sure what else to suggest, apart from emigration or a move to Scotland.

Morning, my great great grandmother Mary Race is the sister of Hannah. Her daughter Annie is my great grandmother and she ended up in West Hartlepool by 1881 and I am up to date with her. I am now branching out sidewards and it is irritating me that I cannot find this family.
Regards

Morning, Hannah Horsley is the sister of my great great grandmother Mary Race (she died in Auckland early part of 1860s (I think). Her daughter (my great grandmother ended up in West Hartlepool by 1881 - she was in Auckland on the 1871 census and I'm up to date with her from them. I'm spreading out now and its really irritating me that I can't find this branch. I do appreciate all your help but if you think there are others who need help more (being as this is a side shoot) then just stick my request on the back burner.
Regards.

I can't get any further!

just to add flesh to that 1851 Census in the hope (possibly vain) of finding a clue)


Name Age
John Horsley 39 b.ca 1812, Thixendale, Yorkshire, Farmer of 165 acres employing 1 Lab
Hannah Horsley 27 b.ca 1824, Forcett, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Horsley 5 b.ca 1846, Crakehall, Yorkshire
William Horsley 3 b.ca 1848, Crakehall
Benjamin Horsley 2 b.ca 1849, Crakehall
Hannah Humphrey 20 b.ca 1831, Stockton, Yorkshire, House Servant
John Kirk 15 b.ca 1836, Thornton le Beans, Yorkshire, Servant


sylvia

Marian, it may help to know your connection - ie how did you get to this family - have you got one of their descendants in your tree & tracked back? Or is one of them a sibling of someone else in your tree?

The parents were married 1844 (Bedale) and Elizabeth looks to be their oldest child, reg Bedale 1845. There doesn't appear to be any more children after Benjamin reg at Bedale, they just seem to disappear. Think I'd try looking at emigration as Sylvia suggests, if they changed their name we don't have much chance of finding them.

Goodnight!

Thank you both very much, I do appreciate your help, my eyes are drooping so I'm going to bed so signing off. I sometimes wish I'd never started this. Night night.

I'll have another look after I get back, in about an hour

gotta go out


think that either name has been mis-transcibed,

they changed their surname for some reason,

OR they emigrated


sylvia

Looks like Hannah born Stockton, but the other one looks like Thornlikle Beason - Sylvia may do better with the transcript? the original is really difficult to read.

If it's any help, Elizabeths birth place should read Crakenhall, with was Northallerton reg district to 1839 when it transferred to Bedale.

I can't find any of them after 1851. Cant find any deaths and Benjamin seems to have disappeared. Could you tell me where Hannah Humphrey and John Kirk where born and then I might try to find them on the 1861 census to see if they are still with the family. Highly unlikely I know but you have to try anything don't you.

I know!

I've tried looking for Benjamin b.ca 1849


I think Horsley must be mis-transcribed, can't find anything

Don't know, the children don't really match the 1851?

???

Name: Elizabeth Horsley
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Wath, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Wath Upon Dearne
Ecclesiastical parish: Wath
Town: Wath Upon Dearne
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Rotherham

Mary Horsley 66
Maria Horsley 36
Richard Horsley 17
Elizabeth Horsley 14
William Horsley 9
Agnes Horsley 3
John F Horsley 1 MO


or

Name: Elizabeth Horsley
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Hannah Horsley
Gender: Female
Where born: Kilpin, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Kilpin
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Howden
Sub-registration district: Howden

Hannah Horsley 40
John Horsley 21
Elizabeth Horsley 14
Ann Horsley 9
William Horsley 6
Richard Horsley 3
Jane Horsley 2 MO
Ann Coates 83





that seems to be it

Hi Slyvia, yes I'm having trouble finding any of them!

Marian - do you have any of the family in 1871?

No thanks, Flip but thanks anyway. Sorry I'm slow replying but my dongle (I dont have broadband) is playing up tonight.
Regards

yep, I'm having trouble finding her. There are a couple of Elizabeth Horsley's as servants, but hard to tell if it is her or not.



Hi Flip


sylvia

The 1861 shows an Elizabeth with mother Martha - so probably the wrong one - do you want it posting anyway?