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I'm wondering if anyone can help me in my search for my husbands Great Grandfathers parents and I feel that parish registars may be my only hope. The information I have has been obtained from 1881 census and marriage certificate.

Ernest Joseph BRADLEY born c1847 St John's Wood Middx (obtained from 1881 census)

Married Sophia Hailey at St Lukes Church, Marylebone on 03/06/1871
At time of their marriage Ernest lived at 17 Queen St, Marylebone. Father listed as Frederick Marshall and he was a Stockbroker.

I have no idea who Ernest's mother was or if Frederick Marshall was his step father or natural father. Ernest died before 1991 census.

Would be grateful for any help as I have hit a brick wall.

Many thanks,
Janet

Have you looked for a possible baptism on one of the familysearch sites?

He doesn't appear to be on any census pre-1881...............

Hi Flick,
Have looked for him on all previous census returns and come up blank and yes also looked on familysearch.

for info 1881 census

Name: Ernest Bradley
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sophia Bradley
Gender: Male
Where born: St Johns Wood, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Marlebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 18 Foley St
Condition as to marriage: Married



Name: Sophia Bradley
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Ernest Bradley
Gender: Female
Where born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Marlebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 18 Foley St


Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Bradley 34
Sophia Bradley 30
Sophia Bradley 8
Maud Bradley 5

1891
Household Members:
Name Age
Sophia Bradley 40
Ernest Bradley 9
Maude Bradley 15
Sophia Bradley 19
Name: Sophia Bradley
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London

Hi Jansmith,
I have all that info, but thanks for your help :)

Just posted so that you could confirm / we can see birth details etc for info as we look for him

????? hard to read census wonder if surname is right
1871
Name: Ernest Melvill
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Frederick N Melvill
Mother's name: Louisa Melvill
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luke
Civil Parish: St James Clerkenwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St James Clerkenwell


Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick N Melvill 52
Louisa Melvill 51
Louisa Melvill 29
Frederick W Melvill 27
Ernest Melvill 21
Douglas Melvill 19
Harry Melvill 15
Annie Melvill 13
Duncan Melvill 11
Maria Melvill 8
Mary Bryant 21-servant



perhaps not it 's this in 1861
Name: Ernest Melville
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Son
Father's name: Frederick W Melville
Mother's name: Louisa Melville
Gender: Male
Where born: Clerkll, London, England

Hi Jansmith
No, don't think they are right.

I looked at their marriage in the parish register on ancestry ...... hoping that at least one of the witnesses woold be an obvious relation


No such luck!


Witnesses:- C. Standen and M. Walker




sylvia

One curious thing


Edward says he was a Waiter on the register



yet his father was a Stockbroker






I wonder if father was not true???






sylvia

There is a Public Family Tree on ancestry ... I found it by entering Sophia Hailey.


As always with these trees, do be careful, check everything



Bradley Family Tree
Owner: grumblediddley


Ernest Joseph Bradley

Birth 1847 in St John's Wood, Middx
Death 25/03/1884 in 55 Greek Street, Soho


Marriage to Sophia Hailey
1871 3 Jun
Age: 24
St Mary the Virgin at the Walls, Colchester



Spouse & Children

Sophia Hailey
1849 – 1915

Sophia Charlotte A Bradley
1872 –

Maud Mary Bradley
1876 –

Ernest Francis Joseph Bradley
1881 – 1944



and this is what it says about his parents:-



Parents

Dudley Heneage

Augusta Bradley


Sibling

Dudley Bradley
1845 –






sylvia

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1851 Census

Name: Dudley Heneage
Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Cousin
Gender: M (Male)
Where born: St Geo Westminster, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Hainton
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Registration district: Louth
Sub-registration district: Binbrook

George Freschi Heneage 50 Widower, Esquire, Magistrate of the Division of Linsey Lincolnshire
Georgian Mary Heneage 14 Daughter
Edward Heneage 48 Brother, Member of Parliament
Dudley Heneage 44 Unmarried, Cousin, Esquire
Magdalen Cropley 60 Visitor, Governess
Charles Smith 48
Matthew Payne 37
William Spooner 40
Robert Epps 28
William Gothard 40
Thomas Rhodes 36
John Padley 32
Anne Firth 37
Anne Farrow 41
Elenor Sewel 42
Francois Chevalier 46
Mary Nye 22
Catherine Terry 19
Elizabeth Elvin 31
Jane Palmer 39
Jane Britton 31
Jane Leach 25
Anne Moore 51
Walter Easley 35

Address:- Hainton Hall


all others are servants



sylvia

??????????


Dudley Robert Fieschi Heneage
Birth: 1805 - Middlesex, England

???????

could this be the death of the brother??


Name: Frederick Dudley Bradley
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 51
District: Marylebone (1837-1901)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a




sylvia

Ernest's Occupation as per 1881 census

Occupation: Advertising Contractor (Newspaper Agent)

1851 census entries for the name Augusta Bradley

Name: Augusta Bradley
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1829
Relation: Head
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Pancras
Sub-registration district: Somers Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 177
Household Members: Name Age
Augusta Bradley 22 Married - Occ: Governess
________________________________________________

Name: Augusta Bradley
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1814
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: St James, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: Brompton Holy Trinity
Town: Brompton
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Registration district: Kensington
Sub-registration district: Brompton
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Theresa Beresford 27
Elizabeth Price 26
Augusta Bradley 37 Widow
Catherine Whitlocks 26

Only one other recorded in 1851.....born 1850

Hi Sylvia

Thanks for your help. I am in contact with with the owner of the Ancestry tree as he's my husbands cousin :) I am not sure about the Heneage line which is why I haven't added it to my tree. There is nothing concrete to show that Dudley Bradley and Dudley Heneage are part of 'my' family. If Ernest Bradley and Dudley Bradley are siblings they have different fathers just going by Ernest's marriage certificate (see above) and their mother obviously wasn't married otherwise they would have different surnames.

I had hoped that if anyone had the Marylebone parish records that it might throw some light on Ernest's parentage, but it may be that he was illegitimate and that his birth wasn't registered.

Thanks again for your hard work.

Janet

Hi Flick,

Thanks for your help.

Going by census records, marriage certificate and his childrens birth and marriage certificates Ernest Bradley went from being a waiter to an Advertising Agent / theatrical Agent.

Janet