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Trying to find Margaret Davies

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Salimali

Salimali Report 23 Jan 2011 10:05

Trying to find Magaret Davies , Born around 1855 at Llanwddyn, Montgomeryshire.
Can not find her on GR but a quick look at Ancestry shows a possible on the 1861 and 1871 census. I do not subscribe to Ancestry so if anyone who does and has the time and is willing to look it up for me I would be very thankful.

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 10:15

The original image says she is a servant not a daughter......

1871 Census
Name: Margaret Davies
[Margaret Jones]
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Simon Jones
Mother's name: Mary Jones
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanwddyn, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Mallwyd
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales
Registration district: Dolgelly
Sub-registration district: Talyllyn
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 40
Household Members: Name Age
Simon Jones 34
Mary Jones 31
Elizabeth Jones 3
John Richd Jones 8 Months
Margaret Davies 15


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 10:27

Poss birth

land & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Margaret Davies Name: Margaret Davies
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Montgomery
County: Montgomeryshire, Shropshire
Volume: 11b
Page: 243

1861 Wales Census
about Margaret Davies Name: Margaret Davies
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Mother's name: Mary Davies
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanwnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Esgob and Castle
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newtown
Sub-registration district: Llanwnog
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Davies 23
Margaret Davies 6
Richard Davies 5
Mary Davies 2
Margaret Jehu 54


Salimali

Salimali Report 23 Jan 2011 10:27

Many thanks Cathy
This looks promising as the family history has her from Mallwyd. but I do not understand why there are two versions of her name
Margaret Davies
Margaret Jones.
Is there a posssible reason for this?
I am new to this and am on a steep learning curve
Thanks

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 10:31

Someone will have submitted that info salimali but I wouldn't think it's very reliable as she is definately a servant not a daughter and has a different surname to the rest of the family... and none of them are from Llanwddyn.
The head of the household is a Farmer of a corn pasture (I think!)

Kind regards

Cathy

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 10:35

I shall have a look at the other census.

On the 1861 the Margaret Jehu is her mother but it could read Johns or maybe misheard Jones? Perhaps her mother married again or perhaps she was base born.

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 10:42

Someone put the 1861 up but the year of birth was wrong, she was 37 in the original image so not the right Margaret... Aaah but it wasn't the same one as Mel put up. She was born in Llanwddyn but they must have removed it when they realised it was a mistranscription.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 10:58

On that one I put up Margaret Jehu is down as mother 54 Charwoman born 1807 Unmarried.

Mary is married but her hubby is not on that census and she is down as a Labourers wife.

1861 Wales Census
about Margaret Jehu Name: Margaret Jehu
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanwnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish or Township: Esgob and Castle
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Newtown
Sub-registration district: Llanwnog
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Davies 23
Margaret Davies 6
Richard Davies 5
Mary Davies 2
Margaret Jehu 54



Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:03

Margaret Jehu is the mother to the head of the household Mary so will be the grandmother of the children. Can't find her in any other census yet?

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 11:06

Cathy that other census says Farmer of a Cows Pasture.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 11:09

salimali Who are you connected to of her children please? That may give us a clue as to which one we are looking for.

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:12

Name: Margreat Gehu
Age: 74
Estimated birth year: abt 1807
Relation: Mother in Law
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanwnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Darowen
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: 11 Abercegir
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Housekeeper

Registration district: Machynlleth
Sub-registration district: Darowen
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
David Davies 48 Widower Ag Lab
Mary Davies 20 daughter Wool weaver
Margreat Gehu 74 unmarried


Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:13

Aaah! I thought it sounded strange :-)) Thanks Mel

Salimali

Salimali Report 23 Jan 2011 11:20

The Margaret Davies I am looking for married John Pugh 1873. Followed gravestones to get to their daughter Jane Pugh. On the 1891 census of the family Margaret was born Llanwddyn and was aged 34.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 11:20

Forget the last one I put up it is the wrong name. I am getting muddled!!!!!! Senior moment!!!!!!!!!!

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:26

1891
Name: Margaret Pugh
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation: Head
Where born: Llanwddyn, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Uchygarreg
Ecclesiastical parish: Machynlleth
Town: Machynlleth
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Machynlleth
Sub-registration district: Machynlleth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Margaret Pugh 34
William Pugh 14
Jane Pugh 12
Mary Pugh 9
Ann Pugh 6
Catherina Pugh 5
Margaret Pugh 1


Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:28

1881
Name: Margaret Pugh
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Pugh
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanwddyn, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Uwchygareg
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Cae Llwyd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image

Registration district: Machynlleth
Sub-registration district: Machynlleth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Pugh 35
Margaret Pugh 26
Elizabeth W... Pugh 6
William Pugh 4
Jane Pugh 1


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 11:28

Have you got their marriage cert please?

Cathy

Cathy Report 23 Jan 2011 11:29


Well she's pretty consistant with the place of birth so let's hope it is all the same person? I hope so....

Edit: Except for the 1861 of course!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Jan 2011 11:32

So this is the family you are searching.

1881 Wales Census
about John Pugh Name: John Pugh
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Margaret Pugh
Gender: Male
Where born: Penegoes, Montgomeryshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Uwchygareg
County/Island: Montgomeryshire
Country: Wales

Street address: Cae Llwyd
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Labourer

Registration district: Machynlleth
Sub-registration district: Machynlleth
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Pugh 35
Margaret Pugh 26
Elizabeth W... Pugh 6
William Pugh 4
Jane Pugh 1