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Trying to find information about my grandfather who was born November c 1906 in Tyneside. He lived in Huddersfield and married to Eveline Holman (don't know date of marriage or where). He was a site forman for a steel erection company in Huddersfield and prior to this he was a petty officer in the British Royal Navy. He sadly died before I was born and my grandmother is no longer alive. Any further information would be greatfully appreciated- such as names of b rothers and sisters ( I know he had a brother called Frank who had a fish and chip shop in Portsmouth), date of birth of his father who was called Albert and was a tram driver in Tynside.

errrrr

I think you have his birth year wrong


if you are still around, can you correct it please




sylvia

Thye married in March quarter 1929


from www.freebmd.org.uk ..... the place to look for all registrations from July 1 1837, to currently about 1950


Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)

Bianchi Frederick Holman Tynemouth 10b 319
Holman Eveline E Bianchi Tynemouth 10b 319





sylvia

If you meant that he was born in 1906, then this is probably his birth certificate

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915

Name: Frederick Bianchi
Year of Registration: 1906
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Tynemouth
County: Northumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 220



You may well have to buy some certificates in order to to confirm names of his mother and father.


They cost £9.25, and you order them from www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/


The only other place from which to buy certificates is the Registry Office, where the event was registered.


Do not, please, be tempted to order certificates through GR, ancestry or any other site ..... they will charge you much moe than £9.25




sylvia

I note you have a tree on ancestry, and that you say Frederick had siblings Frank and Peggy



sylvia

a free search of the 1911 Census www.fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk/ shows:-

HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI CHARLES M 1903 8 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI ELIZABETH ANN F 1877 34 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANCES F 1905 6 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANK M 1869 42 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FRANK M 1911 2 MONTHS Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI FREDRICK M 1907 4 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI JOHN M 1909 2 Tynemouth Northumberland
HOUSEHOLD BIANCHI LILIAN F 1902 9 Tynemouth Northumberland


You can buy credits to look at the actual image. That will tell you the relationships between the people listed


I note there is NO Albert shown here




sylvia

This looks like the marriage for the frank and Elizabeth Ann shown in the above 1911 Census

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)

Bianchi Francis Tynemouth 10b 342
Jobson Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 342



and this is another possible birth for that family

Births Sep 1916 (>99%)

Bianchi Thomas Jobson Tynemouth 10b 397





sylvia

The only Albert I can find was born in Islington, London, and lived in Essex in 1901.





sylvia

Here's the 1911 census that Sylvia was referring to earlier -

BIANCHI, Frank Head Married M 42 1869 Boilermaker Plater Durham Jarrow
BIANCHI, Elizabeth Ann Wife Married
12 years F 34 1877 Durham Pelton Fell
BIANCHI, Lilian Daughter F 9 1902 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Charles Son M 8 1903 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Frances Daughter F 6 1905 School Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, Fredrick Son M 4 1907 Northumberland Wallsend
BIANCHI, John Son M 2 1909 Northumberland Wallsend VIEW
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 Northumberland Wallsend
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
30710 Reference:
RG14PN30710 RG78PN1757 RD559 SD1 ED4 SN107

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Wallsend Enumeration District:
4 Parish:
Wallsend

Address:
38 Thames St East Wallsend On-Tyne County:
Northumberland

7 children, 6 lived, 1 died

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Bianchi Francis Tynemouth 10b 342
Jobson Elizabeth Ann Tynemouth 10b 342

1901 census -
BIANCHI, Thomas Head Married M 36 1865 Labourer In Shipyard
London
BIANCHI, Margaret Wife Married F 29 1872
Helburn New Town
Durham
BIANCHI, Mary Ann Daughter F 7 1894
Wallsend
Northumberland
BIANCHI, William H Son M 5 1896
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Son M 2 1899
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, John Thomas Son M 0 (3 MOS) 1901
Long Benton
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Frank Brother Married M 32 1869 Plater In Shipyard
Jarrow on Tyne
Durham
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4808 Folio:
10 Page:
12

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Longbenton Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Longbenton St Bartholomews

Civil Parish:
Longbenton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Stable Row Bigges Main, Longbenton, Bigges Main Little Benton County:
Northumberland

1901 census -
JOBSON, Ann Head Married F 49 1852
Wallbottle
Northumberland
BIANCHI, Elizabeth Ann Daughter Married F 24 1877
Pelton Fell
Durham
BIANCHI, George Grand Son Single M 1 1900
Walker
Northumberland
ALLISON, John Lodger Married M 39 1862 Coal Miner
Aspatria
Cumberland
ALLISON, George Lodger Single M 17 1884 Coal Miner
Aspatria
Cumberland
RG number:
RG13 Piece:
4796 Folio:
60 Page:
14

Registration District:
Tynemouth Sub District:
Wallsend Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Luke

Civil Parish:
Wallsend Municipal Borough:
Address:
36, Vine Street, Wallsend County:
Northumberland

Another child born after 1911 -
Births Sep 1916 (>99%)
Bianchi Thomas Jobson Tynemouth 10b 397

George must be the child who has died in the 1911 census -

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
Bianchi George Tynemouth 10b 303
Deaths Dec 1902 (>99%)
Bianchi George 3 Tynemouth 10b 128

UK, Naval Medal and Award Rolls, 1793-1972
about Francis Albert Bianchi
Name: Francis Albert Bianchi
Medal or Award: RN Long Service and Good conduct Medal
Service Year: 1940-1944
Ship Name: Queen Charlotte

(awarded 1944, gives number, PO P/JX127506)

Chris :)

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Births Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Bianchi Francis A Tynemouth 10b 201



Death...

Name: Francis Albert Bianchi
Birth Date: 20 Jan 1911
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Registration district: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 0798

Could this be brothers, Thomas and Frank (see 1901 census above) in 1871 - the birth places match and Thomas could actually be John Thomas?

BIANCHI, Ann Wife F 34 1837 Yorkshire
BIANCHI, George Son M 14 1857 County Durham
BIANCHI, Henry M 11 1860 County Durham
BIANCHI, John T M 5 1866 London VIEW
BIANCHI, Frank M 0 1871 County Durham
RG number:
RG10 Piece:
5040 Folio:
69 Page:
31

Registration District:
South Shields Sub District:
Shields, South Enumeration District:
14 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow Municipal Borough:
Address:
Charles Street, Hedworth Monkton & Jarrow, Jarrow County:
Durham

Marriages Sep 1891
Bianchi John Thomas Tynemouth 10b 358
Bianchie John Thomas Tynemouth 10b 358
Philipson Margaret Tynemouth 10b 358

Naval Records are held at National Archives, Kew,
Some are able to be downloaded for £3.50, from their website, under Documents Online.

Chris :)

Many thanks to Sylvia, Lynne and Chris.

I have ordered my Grandfather Frederick Bianchi's birth certificate at the cost of £9.25 from site recommended and should recieve this next Friday the 28th. This will confirm the forenames of my paternal great grandfather and surname of my paternal great grandmother- whom I am inclined to think may be Jobson: but i will have to be patient with this! It is strange that my Nanna (when still alive) informed me that my grandfather's dad was a tram driver in Wallsend and was called Albert. It may be that he had a middle name called Albert and this will show up on the birth certificate and he may have changed his occupation later. After looking at the dates related to a Royal navy long service award, it couldn't match the birth date of my paternal great grandfather, because my grandfather Frederick Bianchi was born in 1906, but I am not ruling this out as a possible later link: so thank you Chris!

I didn't think I would get this far and my Nanna may have sent me on a wild goose chase. I am beginning to wonder, if this is connected to the possibility of my potential great grandfater and grandmother having to get married in 1899 because she was pregant with George who unfortunately and very sadly died approx two years later. If they did have to get married it would have been quite a talking point at the time. However having said this, my great grandfather made a good and honourable thing to get married and it looks like they had a complete family.

Let us know how you go with the birth certificate, David.
It will be good to find out if we were on the right track.