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Hi i'm looking for any information on John Henry Stephens born around 1877, fathers name also John Stephens. Unsure of where he was born possibly portsmouth, plymouth or swansea. He married a Margaret Jane Williams in 1918 in tabernacle chapel in pontardawe. He was a widower at the time and worked as a rigger in the nickle works. I know theres not a lot of info to go on, but anything would be great
thanks

Does it give an occupation for John's father ?

Hia yes it does, i have the marriage cert for john and margaret and it says that his father was a dock yard labourer, thanks

Bethan,

Who were the winesses?

Annx

Wondering if this is the family ?

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Household:1881

John STEVENS Inmate (Head) M Male 49 Bristol St Mary Redcliffe Quay Labourer (Habour) <<<<<<<<<<<<
Emma STEVENS Inmates Wife M Female 45 Bristol Axbridge Washing
John STEVENS Inmates Son U Male 2 Stapleton, Gloucester, England Scholar
William STEVENS Inmates Son U Male 5 w Stapleton, Gloucester, England Nil

Institution Barton Regis Union Workhouse Stapleton
Census Place Stapleton, Gloucester, England

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EDIT :
Looks like this is the birth for the above - - Not John Henry.

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Births Dec 1878
Stephens John Edwin - Bristol 6a 52

Possibility for 1881

Name: John H. Stephens
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Stephens
Mother's name: Emily Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Millbrook
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Hope Cottage
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
John Stephens 27
Emily Stephens 27
John H. Stephens 4
Thomas Paige 69
 
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1223; Folio: 46; Page: 30; GSU roll: 1341299.

And 1891

Name: John Henry Stephens
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: John Stephens
Mother's name: Emily Stephens
Gender: Male
Where born: Southampton, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: Millbrook
Ecclesiastical parish: Freemantle
Town: Freemantle
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: Millbrook
ED, institution, or vessel: 14

John Stephens 37
Emily Stephens 37
John Henry Stephens 14
 
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 929; Folio 8; Page 11; GSU roll: 6096039.

Hi ann the witnesses were margarets older half brother david Thomas and an edward james parkhouse
thanks

to be honest guys i think this is going to be a hard one. iv looked on birth indexes and census's etc, but there just seems to be too many john stephens and i have nothing which to narrow them down with

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Marriages Mar 1876
Stephens John - S. Stoneham 2c 73
Titheridge Emily - S. Stoneham 2c 73

Possible ...

Births Jun 1876
Stephens John Henry - Southampton 2c 24

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From Bethans other thread

yes please. it was actually my great grand dad. his name was john henry stephens, he married my great nan margaret jane williams in 1918. he was 41 and listed as a widower. unfortunately i dont know much about him. his birth place is uncertain. but at the time of marrying my great nan he was living in clydach, swansea. i hope this is ok for you. just really want to find out some things about his first wife as i met an elderley relative when i was about 10 and he mentioned my nan had sisters... which my dad knew mothing about. i would like to find out if this is true. thanks

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STEPHENS, John Henry
Address: 2 Regent St Southampton

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STEPHENS, John Henry Head Married M 34 1877 Dock Labourer Southampton VIEW
STEPHENS, Emma Eliza Wife Married
12 years F 34 1877 Wimbrone VIEW
STEPHENS, Amelia Ivy Irene Daughter F 11 1900 School Southampton VIEW

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They only had the one child

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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.Stephens John Henry Southampton 2c 46
Welch Emma Eliza Southampton 2c 46



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Deaths Mar 1915 (>99%)
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Stephens Emma 37 Shardlow 7b 741


Not sure if this is her as what was she doing in Derbyshire? Cannot see an Emma Stephens in Derbyshire in 1911 so maybe then??

im not sure if this is them as johns listed as a rigger at the local nickel works. his father (also named john) was listed as a dock yard labourer ...... its all very confusing......

People dont always keep the same occupation throughout their lives especially if they move areas. If his father worked on the docks it is very likely his son followed in the same line of work

jax

If he married in Wales where does the place of birth come from?

What about this one??

1911 census - household transcription
Person: STEPHENS, John H
Address: 37 Slate Street Morriston

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STEPHENS, John H Head Married M 34 1877 Steel Worker Furnaceman Kingsbridge Pembroke VIEW
STEPHENS, Susan Wife Married
10 years F 34 1877 Wife St Just Cornwall VIEW

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Deaths Mar 1917 (>99%)
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Stephens Susan 40 Swansea 11a 1272

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Up until 1911 they had 3 children but they had all died

When and where did her die?

Rose

I thought this could be his death Rose

Name: John H Stephens
Death Registration Month/Year: 1939
Age at death (estimated): 62
Registration district: West Glamorgan
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 1296