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Peter

Peter Report 21 Dec 2010 08:12

Harry Albert Collings
H.A mother was Sarah Gunn who married William Collings
H.A. first wife was Elizabeth Willa Harman, illegitimate daughter of Mary Ann Harman who later married William E Allen .

Pam

Pam Report 21 Dec 2010 08:42

You need to give more information.

What information are you looking for

There is nothing showing on
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com for the marriage

Is this in UK or elsewhere.

In order for us to help you...you need to help us by being more specific

Cathy

Cathy Report 21 Dec 2010 09:11

1911 census - household transcription
Person: COLLINGS, Harry Albert
Address: 13 Up St James Street Brighton
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COLLINGS, Harry Albert Head Married M 37 1874 Fishmonger Poultead Co Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Elizabeth Willa Wife Married 20 years F 37 1874
Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Henry William Son Single M 19 1892 Fishmonger Assistant Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, George Albert Son Single M 17 1894 Fishmonger Assistant Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Willa Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1897 Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Sidney Jessie Son Single M 9 1902 School Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Gladys Rose Daughter F 6 1905 School Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Robert Leslie Son Twins M 3 1908 Brighton Sussex
COLLINGS, Thomas Alfred Son Twins M 3 1908 Brighton Sussex

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RG number: RG14 Piece: 5111 Reference:
RG14PN5111 RG78PN226 RD79 SD1 ED23 SN236

Registration District: Brighton Sub District: East Brighton
Enumeration District: 23 Parish: Brighton

Cathy

Cathy Report 21 Dec 2010 09:16

Name: Harry Albert Collings
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 264

Name: Elizabeth Wills Harman (Willa on original)
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 197

Cathy

Cathy Report 21 Dec 2010 09:18

Name: Elizabeth Wella Harman
Year of Registration: 1891
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 402
Spouse: Harry Collins


Is this a 2nd marriage?

Name: Harry A Collings
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's Surname: Chandler
District: Brighton
County: Sussex, East Sussex
Volume: 2b
Page: 407

Cathy

Cathy Report 21 Dec 2010 23:24

Hi Peter,

As I said in my PM (personal message) I am not related to you or Harry Albert Collings. If you look at some of the threads you will see that people help each other to find records....they are hardly ever related.

So opening my tree to you would be pointless. Have a look at the tips on how to use the boards and it might make things clearer to you.

Good luck with your search...

Kind regards,

Cathy

Flick

Flick Report 21 Dec 2010 23:40

1891

Name: Harry Collings
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Collings
Mother's name: Sarah Collings
Gender: Male
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England


Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Collings 51
Sarah Collings 50
Harry Collings 18
Alice Collings 15
Edward Gunn 30 Boarder
John Gunn 15 Boarder
_________________________________________________

Transcribed as living next door.....................

Name: Hannah Collings
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Rotherfield, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England


Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hannah Collings 66
Florence B Collings 37
Lydia Collings 20
James Gunn 77 Boarder.......................but I think he is actually a Boarder in William's household


Flick

Flick Report 21 Dec 2010 23:43

Marriages Jun 1864 (>99%)
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Collings William Brighton 2b 323
Gunn Sarah Brighton 2b 323

If you wish to add feedback, Peter, for example to give us an idea of what you are actually asking, please do so by using the Add your reply box........ below

Flick

Flick Report 22 Dec 2010 12:33

1851

Name: Sarah Gunn
Age: 10
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: James Gunn
Mother's name: Sarah Gunn
Gender: F (Female)
Where born: Brighton, Sussex, England

Civil Parish: Brighthelmstone
Town: Brighton
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England

Registration district: Brighton
Sub-registration district: The Palace
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 70
Household Members: Name Age
James Gunn 37
Sarah Gunn 37
Ann Gunn 12
Sarah Gunn 10
Mary Gunn 8
Elizabeth Gunn 4
James Gunn 1

Flick

Flick Report 22 Dec 2010 12:38

Name: Harry A Collings
Death Registration Month/Year: 1962 (OND Qtr)
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Hove
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 463

Flick

Flick Report 24 Dec 2010 10:18

Do you actually want info Peter?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Dec 2010 11:15

The marriage on BVRI:

COLLINGS, William Age: 23 Marriage
Wife: Sarah GUNN Age: 23
Marriage Date: 18 May 1864 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Husband's Father: Henry COLLINGS
Wife's Father: James GUNN
Source: FHL Film 1067129 Dates: 1862 - 1865

Peter

Peter Report 27 Dec 2010 13:40

Thank you all so much for all your hard work.
i realize that I did not make myself to clear as to my goals , but I have certainly had my eyes opened to lots of info I did not have before, I especially enjoyed seeing the info from Margaret re Sarah Gunn marrige to William Collings. Also the Census entries from Flick showing the next door neibours all in the name of collings Some I had never heard of before ie Hannah.so much new info to explore thank you so much. please feel free to keep it coming

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 13:52

Sarah's birth?

GUNN, Sarah Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 28 Mar 1841 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 13:58

And Sarah's siblings?

GUNN, James Edward Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 1 Jun 1834 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067108 Dates: 1826 - 1836

GUNN, Sarah Maria Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 11 Sep 1836 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

GUNN, Ann Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 16 Dec 1838 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

GUNN, Mary Ann Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Aug 1843 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

GUNN, Elizabeth Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 22 Mar 1846 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067110 Dates: 1845 - 1850

GUNN, Betsy Barbara Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 31 Oct 1847 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067110 Dates: 1847 - 1847

GUNN, James John Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 5 May 1850 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067110 Dates: 1845 - 1850

GUNN, John Christening
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1852
Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067112

GUNN, Edward Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 15 Dec 1856 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: James GUNN
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067112 Dates: 1852 - 1857

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 14:06

William's birth?

COLLINS, William Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 22 Nov 1840 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 14:11

And William's siblings?

COLLINGS, Henry George Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 28 Mar 1830 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINGS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067108 Dates: 1830 - 1831

COLLINS, James Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Dec 1831 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067108 Dates: 1830 - 1831

COLLINS, Sarah Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 5 Jan 1834 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067108 Dates: 1826 - 1836

COLLINS, John Thomas Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 3 Jan 1836 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

COLLINGS, Thomas Charles Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 27 May 1838 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINGS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067109 Dates: 1835 - 1845

COLLINS, Alfred Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 26 Apr 1846 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067110 Dates: 1845 - 1850

COLLINS, Frederick Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 9 Jan 1848 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: Henry COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067110 Dates: 1845 - 1850

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 15:06

The only children of William & Sarah in Brighton on BVRI:

COLLINGS, Eliza Jane Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 Nov 1864 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Father: William COLLINGS
Mother: Sarah Ann
Source: FHL Film 1067113 Dates: 1862 - 1867

COLLINGS, William Henry Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 25 Feb 1872 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: William COLLINGS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067114 Dates: 1871 - 1881

COLLINS, Alice Christening
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 30 Jul 1876 Recorded in: Brighton, Sussex, England
Collection: St Nicholas
Father: William COLLINS
Mother: Sarah
Source: FHL Film 1067114 Dates: 1871 - 1881

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Dec 2010 15:22

In the same house:
1871 census
1 Milton Place, Brighton, Sussex
Henry Collins, head, 64, bricklayer, born Brighton
Sarah, wife, 63, born "
William, head, 30, labourer, born "
Sarah, wife, 30, born "
Eliza, dau, 6, born "
John Cooper, lodger, 60, tyler?, born London
Thomas, son, 19, ", born "

Peter

Peter Report 28 Dec 2010 23:12

Margaret
you truly are amazing. I used to find it strange how some 'Collings' were shown as 'Collins' Could this be because of the way it was said at the time ? and transcribed to official documents by the registrars.I doubt that some of these folks could have written their own names.