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Derek
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18 Dec 2010 11:20 |
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Trying to find details of my greatgrandfather George Henry Frith, sculptor, father of Georgine Belle Frith, b 21 April 1894 at Cheltenham. Mother May Buxton.
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Vera
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18 Dec 2010 12:08 |
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Have found Georgina's birth on Freebmd....the only marriage I can find
Marriages Sep 1912 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Buxton Martha Frith Derby 7b 1205 Frith George A S Buxton Derby 7b 1205
I know you are looking for details.....I just wondered if you knew the ages of her parents.
Regards Vera
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GlitterBaby
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18 Dec 2010 12:12 |
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I must be having a daft few moments as I thought it had said William Henry Frith.
Time for new glasses I think Lol !!!
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Vera
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18 Dec 2010 12:15 |
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Hiya
Have been there...done that so many times :-))
Regards Vera
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18 Dec 2010 12:19 |
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Not found her in 1901 or 1911
Did they emigrate?
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Vera
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18 Dec 2010 12:28 |
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Sorry No luck...same as G/baby and Flick. Cannot see them on migration either
Regards Vera
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 12:39 |
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This is her marriage:
Marriages Mar 1911 BYRNE Michael W Rochford 4a 704 Frith Georgine B Rochford 4a 704
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 12:41 |
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BYRNE, Michael William Head Married M 23 1888 Sign Writer Manchester Longsight BYRNE, Greta Georgine Belle Wife Married F 16 1895 None Hanery House U S D RG number: RG14 Piece: 10132 Reference: RG14PN10132 RG78PN533A RD195 SD2 ED20 SN110 Registration District: Rochford Sub District: Prittlewell Enumeration District: 20 Parish: Prittlewell Address: 66 Princes ST County: Essex
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18 Dec 2010 12:44 |
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The only marriage for Frith and Buxton I could find is this
Marriages Dec 1896 (>99%) Buxton Mary Hannah Rotherham 9c 1032 Firth William Henry Rotherham 9c 1032
Wrong area, wrong name I know
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 12:47 |
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mmm 1901?
Seems a bit interesting.
FRITH, William S Head Married M 51 1850 Sculptor Leicester FRITH, Isabella J Wife Married F 31 1870 Westmr London FRITH, Edgar S Son Single M 11 1890 Battersea FRITH, Anita I Daughter Single F 9 1892 Battersea FRITH, Margareta L Daughter Single F 8 1893 Battersea FRITH, Hubert W Son Single M 5 1896 Battersea FRITH, Alan K Son Single M 0 (11 MOS) 1901 Fulham GODFREY, Christina A Servant Single F 16 1885 Servant (General Domestic) Fulham
RG number: RG13 Piece: 69 Folio: 22 Page: 35 Registration District: Fulham Sub District: South Fulham Enumeration District: 25 Ecclesiastical Parish: Fulham Christ Church Civil Parish: Fulham Municipal Borough: Address: 2, Bowerdean Street, Fulham County: London
Although their marriage is this:
Marriages Dec 1888 DUMBRILL Isabella Jane Wandsworth 1d 948 FRITH William Silver Wandsworth 1d 948
But mmm Frith - Sculptor....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Silver_Frith
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18 Dec 2010 12:52 |
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No not them as here they are in 1911:
FRITH, William Silver Head Single M 61 1850 Sculptor Leicester FRITH, Isabella Jane Wife Married 22 years F 41 1870 Pimlico FRITH, Edgar Silver Son Single M 21 1890 Student Assisting In Father's Business Battersea FRITH, Anita Isabel Daughter Single F 19 1892 Student Battersea FRITH, Margarita Ivey Daughter Single F 18 1893 School Battersea FRITH, Herbert William Son Single M 15 1896 School Battersea FRITH, Allan Roberts Son M 10 1901 School Fulham PROBYN, Lillian Alice Servant Single F 22 1889 Domestic Bristol
RG number: RG14 Piece: 2401 Reference: RG14PN2401 RG78PN80 RD26 SD7 ED10 SN20 Registration District: Wandsworth Sub District: Southfields Enumeration District: 10 Parish: Wandsworth Address: 51 Rusholme Road West Hill Putney S W County: London
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 12:56 |
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Another Frith Sculptor
1901
FRITH, Henry C Head Married M 52 1849 Sculptor Chester Cheshire FRITH, Maria Wife Married F 36 1865 Salford Lancashire ASHFORD, Elizabeth J Daughter Married F 29 1872 Gloucester Gloucestershire BATTS, Henry J Visitor Married M 44 1857 Clergyman (Baptist) Lymington Hampshire BATTS, Mary G Visitor Married F 41 1860 South Africa Cape Town PINKNEY, Sarah Servant Single F 20 1881 General Servant (Domestic) Gloucester Gloucestershire ASHFORD, Ellen K Grand Daughter F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Birmingham Warwickshire
RG number: RG13 Piece: 2430 Folio: 68 Page: 10 Registration District: Gloucester Sub District: South Hamlet Enumeration District: 18 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: Gloucester Municipal Borough: Address: 11, Glencoe, Barton Street, Gloucester County: Gloucestershire
1911
FRITH, Henry Chapman Head Married 17 years M 61 1850 Sculptor Chester Cheshire FRITH, Maria Wife Married FLEETWOOD, Mary Servant Servant F 15 1896 General Servant Domestic Newent Fostershire
RG number: RG14 Piece: 15307 Reference: RG14PN15307 RG78PN926 RD325 SD3 ED13 SN7 Registration District: Gloucester Sub District: Gloucester Southern Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Gloucester Address: 111 Barton St Gloucester County: Gloucestershire
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18 Dec 2010 13:04 |
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FRITH, Henry C Head Widower M 42 1849 Sculptor Chester Cheshire FRITH, Alfred F Son Single M 21 1870 Sculptors Apprentice Gloucester FRITH, Elizabeth J Daughter Single F 18 1873 Housekeeper Gloucester FRITH, William J Son Single M 16 1875 Sculptors Apprentice Gloucester FRITH, Arthur P Son Single M 13 1878 Scholar Gloucester TUDOR, Elizabeth Servant Single F 20 1871 General Servant Domestic Elmcote
RG number: RG12 Piece: 2017 Folio: 26 Page: 2 Registration District: Gloucester Sub District: South Hamlet Enumeration District: 18 Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Civil Parish: Barton St Mary Municipal Borough: Gloucester Address: 11, Lower Barton Street, Barton St Mary, Gloucester County: Gloucestershire
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a connection to this family.
I think Henry Chapman Frith and William SIlver Frith are brothers. Henry's son Arthur Percy is a sculptor in 1901 and 1911 and one of his children has the middle name Silver.
Plus this family are in Gloucestershire.
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 13:19 |
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Marriages Sep 1867 COMPTON Elizabeth Cheltenham 6a 718 Frith Henry Chapman Cheltenham 6a 718
Marriages Sep 1893 Frith Henry Chapman Gloucester 6a 549 Gee Maria Gloucester 6a 549
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FRITH, Henry C Head Married M 31 1850 Sculptor Employing 2 Men & 1 Boy Cheshire FRITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 30 1851 Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, Henry G Son Single M 12 1869 Scholar Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, Alfred H Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, Elizabeth J Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, William J Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, Arthur P Son Single M 4 1877 Gloucester Gloucestershire SCUDAMORE, Isobel Visitor Single F 25 1856 Gloucester Gloucestershire
RG number: RG11 Piece: 2537 Folio: 74 Page: 38 Registration District: Gloucester Sub District: South Hamlet Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Gloucester Barton St Mary Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Barton St, Gloucester Barton St Mary County: Gloucestershire
Possible that Henry G is George Henry?
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 13:23 |
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Births Sep 1868 FRITH Henry George Gloucester 6a 246
Deaths Sep 1894 Frith Henry George 25 Wheatenhurst 6a 157
Might explain the late registration of Georgina if he had died?
Who registered Georgina's birth?
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 13:30 |
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Ah ha!
1891
FIRTH, Henry G Lodger Single M 23 1868 Sculptor Gloucestershire
RG number: RG12 Piece: 3628 Folio: 36 Page: 8 Registration District: Bradford Sub District: Bradford West End Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Jude Civil Parish: Bradford Municipal Borough: Bradford Address: 14, Hanover Square, Bradford County: Yorkshire (West Riding)
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18 Dec 2010 13:55 |
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FRITH, Henry Chapman Head M 23 1848 Sculptor Chester Cheshire FRITH, Elizabeth Wife F 22 1849 Gloucester Gloucestershire FRITH, George Henry Son M 2 1869 Gloucester Gloucestershire JORDAN, Ellen Servant F 15 1856 Mitcheldean Gloucestershire FRITH, Alfred Howard Son M 1 1870 Gloucester Gloucestershire
RG number: RG10 Piece: 2620 Folio: 56 Page: 5 Registration District: Gloucester Sub District: Hamlet, South Enumeration District: 10A Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Michael Municipal Borough: Address: Barton Street 5 Ludia Villas, St Michael County: Gloucestershire
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FamilyFogey
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18 Dec 2010 14:05 |
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1861 England Census about Henry C Frith Name: Henry C Frith Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Son Father's name: Henry Frith Mother's name: Elizabeth Frith Gender: Male Where born: Bridgetts, Cheshire, England Civil Parish: Barton St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address: Brook Street
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: South ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 234 Household Members: Name Age
Henry Frith 41 Sculptor in Wood and Stone employ 2 masons, 1 boy, 1 App b. St James Westiminster Elizabeth Frith 43 b. Clifford Charles Warwickshire Henry C Frith 13 b. Chester St. Bridgetts William S Frith 11 b. Leicester Elizabeth M Frith 8 b. Abedare Glamorganshire John Clark Frith 4 b. Barton St. Mary John Allen 17 Apprentice b. St Johns Gloucestershire
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1768; Folio: 66; Page: 40; GSU roll: 542865.
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FRITH, Henry Head Married M 31 1820 Stone & Wood Carver Westiminster FRITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 33 1818 Clifford Warwickshire FRITH, Henry C Son M 3 1848 Chester FRITH, William Son M 0 (10 MOS) 1851 Leicester TANGER, Hannah Servant Unmarried F 25 1826 House Servant Great Ashby Leicestershire
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2090 Folio: 509 Page: 8 Registration District: Leicester Sub District: West Leicester Enumeration District: 9E Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: St Marys Municipal Borough: Leicester Address: 16, Regent Street, St Marys, Leicester County: Leicestershire
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Derek
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20 Dec 2010 11:47 |
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Thankyou very much for the replies & assistance. More avenues have been opened now & I hope to be able to finally sort out the family.
Thanks
Derek
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FamilyFogey
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20 Dec 2010 13:02 |
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You're welcome Derek.
No idea about May - but I would imagine perhaps she and George Henry/Henry George Frith may not have officially married.
Interesting that Georgina was using the first name Greta in 1911 though.
I wonder what Georgina's marriage certificate has for her father's details and whether her mother was a witness as she was very young and would have probably needed permission to marry.
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