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Gillian
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17 Dec 2010 14:37 |
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Hi - Could someone please take a look in the 1891 & 1901 census for me - to find the family below:
Here they are in the Census 1881: Henry BEAMS Head M Male 23 Charfield, Gloucester, General Labourer Sarah Ann BEAMS Wife M Female 24 Charfield, , England
Henry BEAMS Head M Male 78 Minety, Wiltshire, Labourer (Cowman) (AL) Mary BEAMS Wife M Female 65 Blenkworth, Wiltshire, England
Thomas FRY Boarder U Male 44 Charfield, Gloucester, Labourer General Joseph WORKMAN Boarder U Male 20 Charfield,Gloucester, Labourer General
Census Place Charfield, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341607 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 2517 / 63 Page Number 9
I am particularly looking to see occupations & addresses for the above household members - I have a theory that Henry beams & Sarah Ann Beams may not stay together and that Joseph Workman may be involved somewhere!?....
Many thanks
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 14:46 |
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1891 England Census about Joseph Workman Name: Joseph Workman Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1860 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Workman Gender: Male Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Charfield Ecclesiastical parish: Charfield Town: Breadstone County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Joseph Workman 31 Sarah Workman 30 Gilbert Workman 2 Annie Workman 5/12 View Original Record
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 14:50 |
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1891 England Census about Henry Beams Name: Henry Beams Age: 32 Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah A Beams Gender: Male Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Charfield Ecclesiastical parish: Charfield Town: Breadstone County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Beams 32 Sarah A Beams 33 Roseni Beams 9 Ellen Beams 7 Bessie Beams 5 Florrie L Beams 2 Henry G Beams 1 View Original Record
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 14:52 |
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1901 England Census about Henry Beams Name: Henry Beams Age: 43 Estimated birth year: abt 1858 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Sarah Ann Beams Gender: Male Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Charfield Ecclesiastical parish: St James and St John Town: Charfield County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Berkeley ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age Henry Beams 43 Sarah Ann Beams 44 Henry Giles Beams 11 Bessie Beams 15 Florence Louisa Beams 12 Mary Ann Beams 8 Elsie Mary Beams 6 Gladys Winifred Beams 2
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Gillian
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17 Dec 2010 14:52 |
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Thanks Lindsay
Is it possible to fine the 'Beams ' in 1891 & 1901 please?
I really need to know if the Sarah Ann & Joseph Workman that you have found are the same people as in 1881 census. Also, did Sarah & Henry have any children?
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 14:55 |
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It looks like Workman married a different sarah
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TootyFruity
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17 Dec 2010 14:59 |
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Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%) BATTEN George Edwin Thornbury 6a 411 Beams Henry Thornbury 6a 411 Workman Martha Thornbury 6a 411 Workman Sarah Ann Thornbury 6a 411
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TootyFruity
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17 Dec 2010 15:02 |
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Now I wonder if they were cousins
Marriages Sep 1884 (>99%) Workman Joseph Thornbury 6a 357 Workman Sarah Anne Thornbury 6a 357
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 15:03 |
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1911 BEAMES, Henry Head Married M 54 1857 Farm Labourer General Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Sarah Ann Wife Married30 years F 55 1856 Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Rosena Daughter Single F 29 1882 Dressmaker Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Henry Giles Son Single M 21 1890 Elastic Weaver Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Packer Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Elsie May Daughter Single F 16 1895 Sorter Charfield Glos Shire VIEW BEAMES, Gldys Winifred Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Charfield Glos Shire VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 15180 Reference: RG14PN15180 RG78PN917 RD321 SD3 ED5 SN18 Registration District: Thornbury Sub District: Berkeley Enumeration District: 5 Parish: Charfield Address: Charfield Gloucestershire
8 children 5 living
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Gillian
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17 Dec 2010 15:03 |
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Thanks again, - our message must have 'crossed' ( you are quicker than me) !
So - cant possible be the same Sarah Ann & Jospeh that you found in 1881......
I am trying to find out whether Sarah Ann Workman ( the one who DOES marry Joseph Workman ) - had been married before ??
Also, I am struggling to find Sarah Ann Workman in any census prior to her marriage to Joseph . I know that Joseph dies in 1897 and I am trying to find out as much as I can about them both - but not having much luck.... the name 'workman' is common in the area. ...
I believe that Sarah may have had a daughter - Ada Lily Workman in 1899 - after Josephs death .....but Im not sure as I cant find Ada in the 1901 census - I have an Ada Lily Workman, born Wooton Under Edge, Dursley, Glos as my grandmother and need to find out where she was as a child
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 15:09 |
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Well her birth cert should give mothers maiden name ? Births Dec 1899 (>99%) Workman Ada Lily Dursley 6a 279
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TootyFruity
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17 Dec 2010 15:22 |
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Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%) Portlock Sarah Anne Dursley 6a 471 Workman Henry Dursley 6a 471
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Gillian
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17 Dec 2010 15:30 |
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Lindsey - Havent yet got birth cert as there are a few Ada Workman births at that time and need a bit more investigating before I can determine the correct one - but I have got her marriage cert to James Nash in 1919 Dursley and it shows her father as Joseph Workman farm labourer deceased.
I am trying to 'play deective' and work out who her mum was and the only Joseph Workman marriage that I could see was to a Sarah Ann Workman - so here I am today, looking for more info........
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 15:33 |
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So 1901 Joseph's children are in the workhouse ?
Name: Gilbert Workman Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1888 Relation: Pauper Inmate (Pauper) Gender: Male Where born: Charfield, Gloucestershire, England Civil Parish: Thornbury Ecclesiastical parish: Thornbury Town: Thornbury County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street address:
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View image Registration district: Thornbury Sub-registration district: Thornbury ED, institution, or vessel: The Workhouse Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 1 Household Members: Name Age
Gilbert Workman 13 Annie Workman 11 Lucy Workman 9 Honor Workman 8 John Workman 6
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Lindsey*
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17 Dec 2010 15:40 |
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You are making hard work of it without certs
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Gillian
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17 Dec 2010 15:43 |
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I see Ada is not in the workhouse - but I have no idea where she is....? I cant understand why I cant find her.... unless she is with grandparents?
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TootyFruity
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17 Dec 2010 16:15 |
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The birth that Lindsey found for Ada Lily Workman was the only one I could find that matches your family. I would buy this certificate to see who the parents are. I don't think you will find her mothers maiden name without a certificate.
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