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Can someone please lookup the marriage of Richard Rostron (bpt 26/10/1831 Rossendale Lancashire) and Jane Hoyle (1835 Blackburn Lancashire), also any help with details of Jane's parents.
Richard emigrated to NSW Australia ??; he married his first wife, Jane Richards in Maitland, NSW in 1860, she died in 1886. He went back to the UK ?? and married his second wife, Jane Hoyle sometime after. Jane Hoyle died in 1918 and Richard Rostron died in 1909, both died in NSW, Australia.
Thanks...Lyne

Was Jane's surname, Hoyle, her maiden name? When was Jane Hoyle born?

Ozi

Can't see a Rostron/Hoyle marriage in the UK.

Are you sure this isn't his first marriage??

Registration Number Groom's Surname Groom's Given Name(s) Bride's Last Name
at Time of Marriage Bride's Given Name(s) District *

1913/1860 ROSTRON , RICHARD. HOSKING , JANE. MAITLAND, NSW

I am not sure if Jane Hoyle had a previous marriage so am assuming that Hoyle was her maiden name. She was born in 1835 in Blackburn Lancashire. If she married Richard about 1886 then she would have been about 51 years of age at the time so perhaps she was married previously.
Richard Rostron's first marriage (12/03/1860) was to Jane Richards; Richards was Jane's maiden name as she was previously married to William Hosking (he died in 1859).
Thanks to everyone trying to help.
Lyne

Possible birth, found on http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/ no trace of a marriage for her on the opc web site. No trace of marriage for them on Freebmd.

Baptisms: 9 Jan 1837 Ebenezer Chapel, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Jane Hoyle - Dau of James Hoyle & Milly (formerly Warburton)
Born: 30 Sep 1836
Abode: Haslingden Lancashire
Occupation: Woolen Weaver
Notes: Underneath Mother's name is recorded 'daughter of Peter Warbuton'
Baptised by: John Verity
Register: Baptisms 1825 - 1837, Page 46, Entry 6
Source: LDS Film 560876

For info, christening you referred to for Richard:

Baptisms: 26 Oct 1831 St John the Evangelist, Bacop, Lancashire, England
Richard Rawstron - Son of Richard Rawstron & Betty
Abode: Greenlow
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Wm Porter
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1838, Page 70, Entry 553
Source: LDS Film 559156

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Marriages Dec 1856 (>99%)
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Cunliffe Henry Haslingden 8e 149
>>>>>Hoyle Jane Haslingden 8e 149
Lord Ann Haslingden 8e 149
>>>>>Rawstron Richard Haslingden 8e 149

Hi Choccy,

The Jane Hoyle I posted was still single to the 1871 census (with parents to 1861) then I lost her, so if this is her marriage before he went and married in Australia I have probably got the wrong birth.

Mac

Have you checked passenger lists to make certain that they were married before they went to Australia? (Or, in Richard's case, went back there)

I haven't - don't have the subs! Have tried to check Haslingden marriages for more details of the one Choccy found but online parish clerks don't cover 1856 marriages.

My question about passenger lists was directed at Lynette..............

Lynette stated in her original message that the 1860 NSW marriage was Richard's first. So that would - presumably - rule out the one in 1856

I have been off line for a week due to computer problems so apologies for my late reply. Thanks to all who have been searching information.
I have found out that Jane Hoyle was married previously as on her death certificate it lists children, James 60 (he would have been born c1858) and 1 Female deceased. I don't have details of her first husband.
I don't think that the birth that Mac found is the right one as Jane's death certificate states that she was 83 years of age when she died (16/7/1918) which means her birth year would have been 1835. Jane definitely married Richard Rostron in Rossendale, Lancashire as his death certificate states the marriage place and as he was 56 years at the time the year would have been 1886.
I cannot find passenger lists of when Jane and Richard returned to Australia but they did return as they both died in NSW.
Thanks again to everyone for your help.
Merry Christmas
Lyne

So, if Jane had been married previously, her name would not have been HOYLE when she married Rostron........................I'm assuming that you are sure that HOYLE was her maiden name?

I don't have any experience of Australian records, so have no idea what info they actually contain.....................

There isn't a marriage of Richard Rost* to a Jane in Lancashire between 1882 and 1901...

You may have to accept that they didn't ever actually marry

Perhaps Jane's first husband was still 'around' when she took up with Richard?

The other scenario would be that James (c1858) was illegitimate

how did you decide which baptism was Richard's please. the one on 26-10-1831 was in Bacup & Rawstron (or is that pure coincidence?)

Baptisms: 13 Mar 1831 St Anne, Turton, Lancashire, England
Richard Rostron - Son of John Rostron & Jane
Abode: Edgworth
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: James Spencer Curate
Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1831 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 197, Entry 1576
Source: LDS Film 1545461

Baptisms: 26 Oct 1831 St John the Evangelist, Bacop, Lancashire, England
Richard Rawstron - Son of Richard Rawstron & Betty
Abode: Greenlow
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: Wm Porter
Register: Baptisms 1828 - 1838, Page 70, Entry 553
Source: LDS Film 559156

Baptism: 20 Nov 1831 St Anne, Tottington, Lancashire, England
Richard son of Henry & Alice Rostron,
Harwood, weaver,
born 19 Jun 1831

you say his death certificate states his marriage was at Rossendale. the district Rossendale coves quite a wide area (including Bacup). Does it name the church as Newchurch in Rossendale or just Rossendale?

edit
just checked Newchurch - marriages for 1886 are on line and no Richard rostron or surname variations marriage

Hi Ann,
That's always assuming they were married in church and not the registry office, but I agree with you I doubted the birth and only posted the one which matched the original posting.

Question - Is the marriage Choccy found correct, then he went of to Auz and re-married, returning years later? Not beyond the bounds of belief, I have a "cousin" many times removed whose grandfather married, here and had a family, then went to Australia married again "for the first time" and had another family, and was only found out when the English wife tried to claim money for their children.

Flick, just for your interest

Not all states are the same, and not all states requested the info from the beginning of registration. However a lot of info is asked. Immediate family - wife, children, parents. Place & date of birth, residency in Oz, burial place, etc. Tasmania is the odd one out. It doesn't ask for as much detail as the other states.

For those wanting to know about what is recorded on Oz BDMs (notice the switch of initials over here) this is a good website. As with all registrations, it depends what people know.

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Ozi

Hi Flick
On Jane's death certificate it states her Father as ?? Hoyle, no name recorded for her Mother. I can only assume that Hoyle was Jane's maiden name. Your suggestion that Jane & Richard never married and that James (c1858) was illegitimate looks likely.
It appears that my GG Grandfather, Richard was a bit of a rogue from some of the information I have found.
Thanks agan for your help.
Regards
Lyne

Hi Ann
Richard's baptism information (26/10/1831) was given to me by a cousin and also by another distant relative who were also researching the Rostron line.
Richard's death certificate only states his marriage to Jane as being at Rossendale.
The only other information I have on Richard's birth is from his son's birth certificate (26/03/1867) which states Richard was a Coal Miner, 36 years, born Rossendale, Lancashire, England.
Thanks again for your help.
Regards
Lyne

Hi All
Thanks for the time you have taken in researching the information it is most appreciated.
Merry Christmas and Best Wishes to You and Your Families.
Lyne
Sydney, NSW, Australia.