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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 17:34 |
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Can any one help I have a marriage cert for a Harriet Goswin born1848 married in 1864 wolverhampton on her birth certificate her mothers maiden name appears as Goswell? I can't find any trace for families of either names as I have no Idea where they came from any help would be greatly appreciated
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6 Dec 2010 17:46 |
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What is her husbands name on the marriage certificate?
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 17:48 |
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John Leighton
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6 Dec 2010 17:56 |
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The 1871 census has them living at Green Lane, Wolverhampton East:
John Leighton, 26 Coal Miner Harriet, 24 Ann, 6 William, 4 John, - I think it says 12 months.
All of them born Wolverhampton
1881: LIGHTON, John Head Married M 37 1844 Coalminer W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, Harriet Wife Married F 34 1847 W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, William Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, John Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, Samuel Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, Robert Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, Ann M Daughter Single F 16 1865 W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW LIGHTON, Sarah H Daughter Single F 3 1878 W'hampton Staffordshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 2794 Folio: 58 Page: 13 Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Wolverhampton Western Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Municipal Borough: Address: 37, Cobden Lane, Wolverhampton County: Staffordshire
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 18:06 |
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Thanks for that Mac. I have that info but Can't find her family maiden name Goswin /or Goswell as they appear different on both certificates so I dont know what names to follow I was hoping there would be someone trying to find one of the family names thanks Carol
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6 Dec 2010 18:08 |
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I can't find a birth registered, but you have her birth certificate? Doesn't it give and area etc? What was her parents names, not having any luck on the 1851/61 census for Harriet, but could try searching using parents names.
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 18:20 |
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The marriage Cert for Harriet dated 1864 Wolverhampton Says her maiden name is Goswin her fathers name was John Goswin he was a steel tog maker. But her Daughters birth certificate shows the mothers maiden name as Goswell
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6 Dec 2010 18:23 |
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Births Mar 1848 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goswin Harriet Wolverhampton 17 399
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 18:31 |
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Thanks will check that out.
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6 Dec 2010 18:39 |
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Sorry I've misunderstood, I though you meant you had Harriet's birth certificate.
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 18:40 |
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I Have tried putting this info in to check but it says there are no matches for Harriet Goswin 1848 births This is why I havn't been able to go any further with the names I have tried all censuses too before is the site not registering my requests?
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6 Dec 2010 18:46 |
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1851 Name: Harriet Gosling Age: 3 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Gosling Mother's name: Sarah Gosling Gender: F (Female) Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical parish: St John County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 1bb Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 63 Household Members: Name Age John Gosling 32 Sarah Gosling 29 Harriet Gosling 3 Charles Collard 22 Harriet Groom 34 George Groom 14 Ruth Groom 12 Martha Groom 5 Esther Groom 3
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6 Dec 2010 18:48 |
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Name: Harriot Gosilen Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1848 Relation: Daughter Father's name: John Gosilen Mother's name: Sarah Gosilen Gender: Female Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Wolverhampton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Wolverhampton Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 44 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age John Gosilen 40 Sarah Gosilen 39 Harriot Gosilen 13 If you are using Genes then I am not surprised you cannot find them
Looks like his occupation was a silk tie maker in this one
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6 Dec 2010 18:57 |
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From find my past again a different transcription
1851 census - household transcription Person: GASLING, Harriet Address: Steelhouse Lane, Wolverhampton
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GASLING, John Head Married M 32 1819 Cork Screw Maker Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GASLING, Sarah Wife Married F 29 1822 Tin Polisher Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GASLING, Harriet Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW COLLARD, Charles Visitor Unmarried M 22 1829 Plumber & Glazier Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GROOM, Harriet Lodger Married F 34 1817 Washerwoman Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GROOM, George Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Locksmith Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GROOM, Ruth Daughter Unmarried F 12 1839 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GROOM, Martha Daughter Unmarried F 5 1846 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW GROOM, Esther Daughter Unmarried F 3 1848 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW
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6 Dec 2010 19:18 |
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Free BMD has another couple of births, possibly Harriet's siblings but looks like the both died in infancy:
Births Dec 1840 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goswin Sarah Ann Wolverhampton 17 359
Births Jun 1852 (>99%) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Goswin Ann Wolverhampton 6b 355
Deaths Jun 1841 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goswin Sarah Ann Wolverhampton 17 247
Deaths Sep 1852 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Goswin Ann Wolverhampton 6b 245
The census search on here is useless, I don't have any other subscriptions but oftet try on findmypast, to get the correct (or probable) spellings for free and then revert back to here & check them out. So it's not just you struggling with the seaches!
atb Mac
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6 Dec 2010 19:30 |
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1871 census for info: John Gosling Age 52 Estimated Year of Birth 1819 Relationship to Head of Household Head Occupation Address Green Lane District Wolverhampton, Wolverhampton, East Parish Wolverhampton Administrative County Staffordshire Birth Place Staffordshire Birth County Staffordshire
His occupation is steel tog maker from the original.
Also there was Sarah 53 (Polisher - trays) and grandson John Leighton 11, born Wolverhampton
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Carol
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6 Dec 2010 19:37 |
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Thanks for that
I thought some of the info wasn't correct or missing but who do you ask? didn't know where to go next I was getting rather fed up with the site but didn't want to give up youv'e been realy helpful thanks Carol
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6 Dec 2010 19:48 |
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With FMP and ancestry you can do wild card searches Like gos* dont think you can do it on Genes
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6 Dec 2010 19:54 |
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Think this may be John & Sarah 1881 (from FMP), back to being a corkscrew maker.
GOSLIN, Jno Head Married M 63 1818 Corkscrew Maker Shareshill Staffordshire VIEW GOSLIN, Sarah A Wife Married F 59 1822 Darlaston Staffordshire VIEW SMITH, Fanny Niece Single F 20 1861 Servant (General) (Dom) Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW SMITH, Polly Niece Single F 15 1866 Presser Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW SMITH, Martha Niece Single F 0 1881 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW NEWMAN, Matilda Boarder Single F 33 1848 Wolverhampton Staffordshire VIEW
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RG number: RG11 Piece: 2807 Folio: 49 Page: 14 Registration District: Wolverhampton Sub District: Wolverhampton Eastern Enumeration District: Ecclesiastical Parish: Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Municipal Borough: Address: 8, Derry St, Wolverhampton County: Staffordshire
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6 Dec 2010 20:00 |
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Can't see either of them again, but poss deaths on Freebmd:
Deaths Sep 1882 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gosling Sarah Ann 61 Wolverhampton 6b 315
Deaths Sep 1885 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gosling John 65 Wolverhampton 6b 285
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