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Bit more info, the 1861 census you found with John (jnr) at Ulverston has him with Christopher Thornbarrow who would be his half brother - so that would tie in.

The 1881 census given by Mike shows all the children, Edward would be the first of John's. There are 2 more stepchildren who were on the 1871 census Mary E Mackereth and Margaret Mackereth, they were both christened at Cartmel, mother Ann but no father mentioned so I wonder if she was ever actually married?

To find Ann's birth, if she was born Natland, this is in the Kendal registration district, but she would probably have been born pre-registration, so this probably doesn't help much.

Mac

thought so, there are only a few families living in Natland, a tiny village so I would think this birth is highly likely for her.

ANN MACKERETH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 APR 1837 Natland, Westmorland, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS MACKERETH Family
Mother: ELIZABETH


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C044291 1813 - 1870 0097405 Film 0933449 Film


Sheet: 00

Thank you so much for all your help Mac really appreciate it!

Does anyone know how I may be able to find out what number Main Street, Flooksburgh John Burns was living at in 1891? The census gives street name but no number. Have the chance of renting cottage on Main Street for a weekend vist and wish to know how near (or far) away the family lived...

86 Main Street

BURNS, John Head Widower M 67 1824 Fishmonger
Allithwaite
Lancashire
BURNS, Edward Son Single M 22 1869 Fisherman
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURNS, James Son Single M 18 1873 Fisherman
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURNS, William Son M 17 1874 Fisherman
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURNS, Hannah Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Flookburgh
Lancashire VIEW
BURNS, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1879 Scholar
Flookburgh
Lancashire

also?

43 Main Street

BURROW, Isabella Head Widow F 80 1811
Allithwaite
Lancashire VIEW
BURROW, Ellen Granddaughter F 13 1878 Scholar
Flookburgh
Lancashire


57 Main Street

BURROW, Joshua Head Married M 53 1838 Fishmonger
Talam
Lancashire
BURROW, Agnes Wife Married F 50 1841
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURROW, Thomas Son Single M 24 1867 Fisherman
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURROW, Edward Son Single M 16 1875 Fisherman
Flookburgh
Lancashire
BURROW, John Son Single M 11 1880 Scholar
Flookburgh
Lancashire

Thanks!

Back then & earlier they were just little hamlets, most of the houses didn't have a number or name.

Ann Mackreth was in Flookburgh in 1841 with her parents Thomas (40) ag lab, mother Elizabeth (25), brother John (3) and Elizabeth ( 2months). Can't find them in 1851, but in 1861 Anne Mackerith is in Flookburgh (a cockler) still single and with her Elinor (sister 12) and Mary Alice (sister 4) and Mary Ellen (1, daughter).

In 1861 her mother Elizabeth was a lodger, widow at Lancaster, she was also a cockler.

On the 1871 census, where you have already found Ann & John Burns, a couple of line above them you will find Ann's mother Elizabeth & her daughter Mary Alice.

Mac