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im trying to find the father of john williams, i have john williams marriage details, john married in feb 1885 age 19, his residence at the time of marriage was brymawt i think that is spelt right, and his father was william williams who was a collier, i so want to find out who johns parents were but have become stuck many thanks

Glynis, do you know who John married in 1885?

hi, yes he married emma cordy

Just for information:
Marriages Mar 1885
Bainton Matthew Henry Crickhowell 11b 111
COLLINS Sarah Jane Crickhowell 11b 111
xxx Cordy Emma Crickhowell 11b 111
xxx Williams John Crickhowell 11b 111

What was John's occupation on marriage cert please?

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johns occupation was a collier, i just cant trace who his parents are, i do now his father was called william williams, hope you can help thanks

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A maybe for 1881 (Both father and son coal miners )


William WILLIAMS Head M Male 50 St Warnard, Hereford, England Coal Miner
Hannah WILLIAMS Wife M Female 51 Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales
Margaret WILLIAMS Daugh U Female 16 Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales Brick Making
John WILLIAMS Son Male 15 Llanelly, Brecknock, Wales Coal Miner
Eliza SKUSE Boarder U Female 23 Blaenavon, Monmouth, England Brick Making
James SKUSE Son Male 9 m Blaenavon, Monmouth, England

Dwelling 19 Rifle Street
Census Place Llanover, Monmouth, Wales

john williams was a collier

Glynis.
Can you give some details of him on a census that you have him and Emma on please?
1901 or 1891 maybe?

How old is Emma on the marriage cert?

all i know is john was born in 1867, his father was called william, john married emma cordy in 1885, thye had quite a few children, arthur, will, archie, maud, dorothy, margaret and there could of been another child, and they lived in wales

Wales is rather a large country Glynis,I know this first hand as its where I live....
How old was Emma on marriage and do you have any birth years for any of the children please?

emma is 18 on the marriage cert

my grandmother who was dorothy wiliams, she was born around 1901 give or take a couple of years, margaret was about 1905 poss, the others were before 1900

1911


WILLIAMS, John Head Married M 45 1866 Coalminer Hewer Llanelley Brecon
WILLIAMS, Emma Wife Wife F 44 1867 Blaenavon Mon
WILLIAMS, Maud Daughter Single F 19 1892 Blaenavon Mon
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Treharris Glam
WILLIAMS, Wilfred George Son Single M 15 1896 Coalminer Hewer Assist Blaenavon Mon
WILLIAMS, Archie Son M 12 1899 School Abertillery Mon
WILLIAMS, Dorris Daughter F 10 1901 Abertillery Mon
WILLIAMS, Ethel Daughter F 9 1902 Abertillery Mon
WILLIAMS, Maggie Daughter F 4 1907 Blaenavon Mon

Registration District:
Pontypool Sub District:
Pontypool Enumeration District:
23 Parish:
Abersychan

Address:
5 Bailey Street Garndiffaith Pontypool County:
Monmouthshire


Married 26 years
12 children born ...4 have died I think,but its a bit of a mess as John cant make his mind up on how many born and died.

thats the family, but i cant find john williams parents , i know his dad is william thats all i know

I had to find them to be able to know where John was born ..
Now I will try tracking him back.

1901
WILLIAMS, John Head Married M 33 1868 Coal Miner Hewer
Llanelly
Brecknockshire
WILLIAMS, Emma Wife Married F 32 1869
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, William Son Single M 15 1886 Coal Miner Hewer
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Maud Daughter Single F 9 1892
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 8 1893
Treharris
Glamorganshire
WILLIAMS, Wilfrid Son Single M 5 1896
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Archie Son Single M 1 1900
Cwmtillery
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Bedwelty Sub District:
Aberystruth Enumeration District:
21 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Michaels

Civil Parish:
Abertillery Municipal Borough:
Address:
26, Cwmtillery Brook Side, Abertillery County:
Monmouthshire

1891
WILLIAMS, John Head Married M 25 1866 Coal Miner
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Emma Wife Married F 24 1867
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, William Son M 5 1886
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
WILLIAMS, Arthur Son M 4 1887
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
CORDY, Thomas Boarder Widower M 70 1821 Labourer
Birley
Gloucestershire
CORDY, Mary Servant Single F 15 1876 Servant
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Abergavenny Sub District:
Blaenavon Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Blaenavon

Civil Parish:
Llanover Municipal Borough:
Address:
Upper Coed Cae, Llanover, Garnddzus County:
Monmouthshire

Oh good Evans,now he has changed his birth place...!
1881 same as Mikes..Looks good.

WILLIAMS, William Head Married M 50 1831 Coal Miner
St Warnard
Herefordshire
WILLIAMS, Hannah Wife Married F 51 1830
Llanelly
Brecknockshire
Wales
WILLIAMS, Margaret Daughter Single F 16 1865 Brick Making
Llanelly
Brecknockshire
Wales
WILLIAMS, John Son Single M 15 1866 Coal Miner
Llanelly
Brecknockshire
Wales
SKUSE, Eliza Boarder Single F 23 1858 Brick Making
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire
SKUSE, James Son Single M 0 1881
Blaenavon
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Abergavenny Sub District:
Blaenavon Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Llanover Municipal Borough:
Address:
19, Rifle Street, Llanover County:
Monmouthshire

well., i knew about 7 possibly, not 12 though, and they are all passed on now to the next life , wonder what this john was like

Looks to be the same John that I posted in 1881 (same birthplace).......... with parents William and Hannah

oh bless you, im certainly smiling at you, what is this blinken john like

bless you,

1871


WILLIAMS, William Head M 41 1830 Herefordshire <<<<<Miner
WILLIAMS, Hannah Wife F 45 1826 Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Eliza Daughter F 17 1854 Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Sarah Ann F 14 1857 Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Jane Daughter F 11 1860 Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Margt Daughter F 7 1864 Breconshire
WILLIAMS, John Son M 4 1867 Breconshire

Registration District:
Abergavenny Sub District:
Blaenavon Enumeration District:
8 Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Llanover Municipal Borough:
Address:
Phillip Street, Llanover, Blaenavon County:
Monmouthshire


1861
WILLIAMS, William Head Married M 30 1831 Iron Stone Miner
Herefordshire
WILLIAMS, Hannah Wife Married F 32 1829
Llanelly
Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Elizabeth Daughter F 6 1855 Scholar
Llanelly
Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Sarah A Daughter F 4 1857
Llanelly
Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Jane Daughter F 1 1860
Llanelly
Breconshire
WILLIAMS, Henry Brother Unmarried M 19 1842 Iron Stone Miner
Llanwenarth
Monmouthshire

Registration District:
Crickhowell Sub District:
4 Llanelly Enumeration District:
4 Ecclesiastical Parish:
Llanelly

Civil Parish:
Llanelly Municipal Borough:
Address:
Gelly Velen, Llanelly County:
Brecknockshire