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Hi ,I have my Grandfathers death certificate which states he was 61 when he died in 1942 ,
I also have his Marriage lines to Norah Short( nee) Hayes which state's he was 34 in 1919 , so how do I know which to belive ,
I know his Father was Thomas South but this is stopping me finding out who his Mother was
I would be so grateful for any help
best Regards
Barbara

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Marriages Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Denham Richard Witham W.Ham 4a 954
Short Norah South W. Ham 4a 954
South Henry Short W. Ham 4a 954
Witham Alice C Denham W. Ham 4a 954


What was his occupation on the marriage cert




Name: Henry South
Death Registration Month/Year: 1942
Age at death (estimated): 61
Registration district: Essex South Western
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 256

Hello , it state's .. House decorater .
Thank you for your reply .

Assume we are looking for Henry South ?

Do you know if he was born in London? There are a couple of possibles between 1881 and 1885.

Hello ,Yes Sorry if I did'nt make that clear
Regard's
Barbara

Does it give any occupation of the father Thomas on the marriage cert?

Struggling with 1911 at the moment

Hello Janice,
I think he was , I know when he Married Norah he was living in Burke street , Canning town London
Thank you

Hello, Father Thomas South Deceased , but was Dock Labourer
Thank you

Canning Town and Bromley-by-Bow aren't that far apart, so the one born there is a possible suspect.

What do you think of this one?

Henry South
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1884
Baptism Date: 5 Jun 1884
Father's name: Thomas South
Mother's name: Catherine South
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bow Common St Paul
Borough: Tower Hamlets

Thomas is a labourer.

That could be the one Janice ,Just seemed a bit odd that he would lie about his age , but he was marrying a younger lady so perhaps it was worth the fib .

1881 census:

This could be the family that goes with that baptism:

Name: Catherine South
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Thomas South
Where born: Stepney, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bromley St Leonard
County/Island: London
Street address: 20 Eastward St
Registration district: Poplar
Sub-registration district: Bromley

Thomas South 32
Catherine South 31
Catherine South 10
George South 8
Ann South 6
Edward South 4

Lying on certs isn't odd at all!! It's actually more common than you think lol.

Death certs are quite often wrong as it relies completely on the informant.

That birth registration looks accurate enough for me going by the age when he married. A death certificate is only as accurate as the knowledge of the informant.

My grandfather said he was 29 when he was 32 grandmother was 20 so maybe that was why

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Thank you so much , think I will add this to my family tree , Might start lying about my age , i can say it run's in the family LOL
Thank you again
Barbara

I shouldn't add something so speculative if I were you.

I'd order the Poplar birth cert

Births Dec 1881
SOUTH Henry Poplar 1c 635

and specify father's name as Thomas. That way you'll definitely know.

I'll do that Janice , your a star ,
Thank you once again
Barbara

In 1891 there is a Henry South, age 8, nephew of Charles and Ellen Simpson, at 28, Box Street, Bromley, London.
- thinking of the one baptised 5 Jun 1884.