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Yes, that's what I found, but it was very faint. But Louisa Annie May Trowbridge was born in 1881 and did marry a Preece, so I find it all a little too coincidental. Interesting that she lists herself as single, but then a lot of people in her family weren't too honest about their marital status! But I couldn't find her after 1910.

I have only had access to the passenger lists a couple of days just getting used to it

passenger transcript details
Name: Annie May PREECE
Date of departure: 23 November 1910
Port of departure: Bristol
Passenger destination port: Halifax, Canada
Passenger destination: Halifax, Canada

Date of Birth: 1881 (calculated from age)
Age: 29
Marital status: Single
Sex: Female
Occupation: Housewife
Passenger recorded on: Page 1 of 13





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Henry Charles PREECE Page 1 of 13 View transcript
Olive May PREECE Page 1 of 13 View transcript

Wow, that was a stroke of brilliance! I think that must be her as she was born in London. I think you've solved the mystery!

Do you remember when I asked you a few months ago about a Louisa Annie May Trowbridge who married a Charles Henry Preece and you couldn't find them on the 1911 census? (Well, you probably don't as you look up so many things.) But she was a half-sister of Emily Sara's husband Alfred Collins Sara. (He left a will by the way in 1937, so I suppose more details could be found in that.)

Well, I think I found her listed as Annie May Preece on a Canadian passenger list (Ancestry opened them up for free for a short while several weeks ago), with children Olive May and Henry Charles. But the record was so faint that I couldn't tell if she was married or a widow. They went to Nova Scotia in 1910 (before the census) and then disappeared after that. Any ideas? No sign of husband.

Oh, I just saw your other entries. Yes, I think Alfred and Emily went visiting the US, but Alfred definitely died in the UK.

You should turn professional, you're so good at this.
Hazel.

I found this could be them?

Name: Alfred SARA
Date of departure: 18 December 1914
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1869 (calculated from age)
Age: 45
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Grocer
Passenger recorded on: Page 6 of 23




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Emily went 10 years later !!!

Name: Emily SARA
Date of departure: 30 August 1924
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1860 (calculated from age)
Age: 64
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H Wife
Passenger recorded on: Page 3 of 18




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Wondering if this is her birth when she married maybe she did'nt want to be called sarah sara?? just a thought

Name: Sarah Emily Radwell
Year of Registration: 1859
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Shoreditch
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 1c
Page: 161 (click to see others on page)

Thanks Jax! I had thought perhaps Emily Sara went to Australia after the death of her husband in 1937 as I could see a 1953 Australia death for an Emily Sara but no details. I'm not sure about the Uckfield death. I was not aware that Emily had a middle name, and I could never find a birth for her (and all the census records had different dates of birth for her). But I suppose the Uckfield death is a possibility. Thanks!

When did Emily go to Australia?

could this be her?

Deaths Mar 1943 (99%)
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SARA Emily S 82 Uckfield 2b 210

1911 census - household transcription
Person: SARA, Emily
Address: 52 Gloucester Road Brighton

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SARA, Alfred Head Married M 41 1870 Provision Merchant Manager St Mews Cornwall VIEW
SARA, Emily Wife Married
24 years F 51 1860 London VIEW

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Deaths Jun 1937 (94%)
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Sara Alfred C 67 Edmonton 3a 791

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Marriages Sep 1887 (>99%)
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RADWELL Emily Edmonton 3a 480
Sara Alfred Collins Edmonton 3a 480
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Thanks for the new info Jax & Cherilyn! I only just realized that people had added to the info.

I see an Emily Sara died in Australia in 1953 - can anybody see more details for that? I think she may have been Ida's mother.

Any children for Alfred or Irene?

Thanks so much,
Hazel.

Possible remarriage for Ida COLYER in 1930 in NSW to Henry O WILLIAMS (reg 8184).

Alfred L COLYER married Edith M LAWES in 1931 (reg 4393).
Irene I COLYER married Edward E CLARKE in 1931 (reg 971).

See www.bdm.nsw.gov.au

COLYER Alfred Louis Death notice 12MAY2001 [aged] 91, late of Camden
CLARKE Irene Ida Death notice 29APR1995 [aged] 87, late of Campbelltown

See www.ryersonindex.org

Name: Mrs Ida COLYER
Date of departure: 14 January 1914
Port of departure: London
Passenger destination port: Sydney, Australia
Passenger destination: Sydney, Australia

Date of Birth: 1889 (calculated from age)
Age: 25
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: Married
Passenger recorded on: Page 16 of 20





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Alfred L COLYER Page 16 of 20 View transcript
Irene COLYER Page 16 of 20 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
BERRIMA
135332
T J Hine
P. & O. Branch Service
Australia
16760
7037
548

Well, having now plugged them into my family tree, I see that they all went to Australia! So thanks for providing me with the clues.

not that many. There was only 9. I just looked at them individually to see if I could find a possibility. Having Fred board with him was a godsend. I was just looking for Frank married for about 6 years but no wife living with him.

I wondered how you were able to pinpoint Frank Colyer in 1911 as there were probably a few of them?

I found the marriage on

www.freebmd.org.uk

and the 1911 census on

www.findmypast.co.uk

which I have a subscription for.

Thanks - you've hit the jackpot! How did you find this? Ida's maiden name was Sara and she had a brother named Frederick, so this is them.

Also, I now realize that Annie Cooper is Ida's sister, Annie Sara.

So fantastic, thanks!

Frank in 1911

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COLYER, Frank Head Married M 26 1885 Grocer Kent Dover
COLYER, Ida Irene Daughter F 3 1908 Kent Blackheath
COLYER, Alfred Louis Son M 1 1910 Sussex Brighton
SARA, Fred Boarder Sing M 21 1890 Assistant Dairyman's Old Kent Rd London
JEROME, Ethel Servant Single F 18 1893 Servant Sussex Brighton

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RG number:RG14 Piece:5121
Reference:RG14PN5121 RG78PN227 RD79 SD2 ED1 SN444

Registration District:Brighton
Sub District:West Brighton
Enumeration District:1 Parish:Brighton

Address:
69 Harting Road Brighton
County:Sussex

3 children 2 living 1 died

Thanks. I just don't know what became of either of them in the long run, or whether they had children.

Hazel.

Possible marriage for Ida

Marriages Mar 1906 (>99%)
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COLYER Frank Kingston 2a 598
SARA Ida Kingston 2a 598

Thanks so much, that was fast! I'm sure that's her because she was born in Fulham. She was married to a Frank Colyer, but I don't know anything about him and this only adds to the mystery. I thought this might shed light on whether there were children, but apparently not. Thanks again so much!

Possibility

COOPER, Mary Head Widow F 66 1845 Guildford
COOPER, Sidney Son Married 5 years M 25 1886 Law Clerk Guildford
COOPER, Annie Daughter In Law Married 5 years F 20 1891 Fulham
COOPER, Frederick Single M 28 1883 Carpet Planner Guildford
COLYER, Ida Visitor Married5 years F 23 1888 Fulham

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RG number:RG14 Piece:3496
Reference:RG14PN3496 RG78PN130 RD40 SD1 ED34 SN80

Registration District:Kingston
Sub District:Wimbledon Enumeration District:34 Parish:Wimbledon

Address:
59 Ashcombe Road Wimbledon
County:Surrey