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would some one be kind enough to look on the 1871 census for a robert stobbart born c1864 carlise cumbria

tracy

Can't see him.............is he on 1881?

For info ONLY...1901

Name: Robert Stobbart
Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ellen Stobbart
Gender: Male
Where born: Carlisle, Cumberland, England

Civil parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
Town: Workington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England



Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 182
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Stobbart 37
Ellen Stobbart 32
Robert Stobbart 10
Sarah Stobbart 5
William Stobbart 3
Thomas Stobbart 10 Months
William Entwistle 64
Joseph Entwistle 41

no i couldnt find him on the 1881 he married ellen (nelly) entwistle in 1890 in kendal and their children where born in workington cumbria

tracy

Weird.......he doesn't appear on any census before 1901..........not on Ancestry, anyway

Reference

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
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ENTWISTLE Nelly Kendal 10b 1015
Garratt George Kendal 10b 1015
Lambert Rosina Kendal 10b 1015
STOBBART Robert Kendal 10b 1015


Regards Vera

he isnt on the lds 1881 one either and i dont have acess to the cumbrian parish records to find further information about him

tracy

No good looking for the son on 1891 either.

Births Mar 1892
Stobbart Robert Kendal 10b 699
Stobbart Robert Foster Kendal 10b 699

????
1891 England Census
Name: Robert Stubbart
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Halliwelle, Westmorland, England [I disagree with this. On the image there has obviously been some alteration. It MIGHT end in __lisle.]
Civil parish: Grasmere
Ecclesiastical parish: Grasmere
Town: Crook
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation: Labourer (Army Reserve)

Condition as to marriage: M

Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Ambleside
Household Members: Name Age
George Hodgson 47
Robert Stubbart 31

ozibird

the lodger is definately wrong, but the son robert is the right age and place so thanks for that

tracy

1871 England Census
Name: Robert Stobbert
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Stobbert
Mother's Name: Sarah Stobbert
Gender: Male
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil parish: Ambleside
Ecclesiastical parish: Ambleside
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address: Blue Hill

Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Ambleside <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Household Members: Name Age
James Stobbert 37 - ag lab;
Sarah Stobbert 35
Mary J Stobbert 12
Robert Stobbert 11
James Stobbert 9
Thomas Stobbert 6
Isabella Stobbert 5
Ann Stobbert 3
Sarah Stobbert 1
James Richardson 65 - boarder
John Holand Moneus 29 - boarder

Hi Ozi,

I think it reads Haltwhistle........

Regards Vera

would someone be kind enough to look for his wife ellen (nelly) on the 1891 census

tracy

Good One Ozi....I reckon you have them on the 1871....I cannot find a birth for Cumbria.

Regards Vera

1861 England Census
Name: Robert Stobbart
Age: 1
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James Stobbart
Mother's Name: Sarah Stobbart
Gender: Male
Where born: Haltwhistle, Northumberland, England [Now this is what could be on 1891.]
Civil parish: Haltwhistle
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: Mount Pleasant

Occupation:

Registration district: Haltwhistle
Sub-registration district: Haltwhistle
Household Members: Name Age
James Stobbart 32 - Coalminer; Castleoveley, Cumberland [Castle Sowerby??]
Sarah Stobbart 25 - Stanwox [Stanwix, Carlisle??]
Mary J Stobbart 2
Robert Stobbart 1
Thomas Stobbart 60 - Boarder; widower; no occupation recorded; Castleowerby, Cumberland [Castle Sowerby??]

ozi

thanks for that but the robert i'm looking for was born carlise, and not halliwell so the 1891 census etc are not my robert, but thanks for that ... opened a new window to look at a later date

tracy :-)

I'm sure 1891 is your Robert. When you look at the image it could well be Haltwhistle scribbled over with 'Northumb' rubbed out or very faded.

He is married and lodging. George Hodgson is not his father. I've tried looking for Ellen/Nelly with no luck so far.

It's quite possible this may have been their child and Ellen may have been staying with friends, but I can't find her.
Births Dec 1890
Stobbart James William Kendal 10b 683
Deaths Mar 1891
Stobbart James William 0 Kendal 10b 487

Ozi

This is the William & Joseph with the Stobbarts in 1901. So she didn't go home to family.

1891 England Census
Name: William Entwistle
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Phoebe Entwistle
Gender: Male
Where born: Stockport, Cheshire, England
Civil parish: Workington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Michael
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 4 Sea View

Occupation: Forge Labourer Smith

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
Household Members: Name Age
William Entwistle 56
Phoebe Entwistle 54
Joseph Entwistle 32
William Entwistle 15

ozibird

i dont think it is .. mine was born carlise c1864 (i know you give and take with dates) but he married in kendal in 1890 thats why i think the robert you found in1891 is his son the rest of his kids were born in workington, cumbria ... but i am definatley going to look in to what you have posted, and i really apprieiacte it

tracy

yes thats them on the 1891 .. 150% ;-)

thank you
tracy