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I'm trying to locate details of a Charles Henry QUICK born C1825 in Exeter, Devon. Married Oct-Dec 1859 Hendon district. Died 2.4.1884 in Marylebone, London. I have details of his wife (Frances COOKE) and I've found a possible trace of him in the 1841 & 1851 census and a positive trace in the 1871 & 1881 census. I can't find him in 1861.
Can anyone give me details of his parents? His mother was possibily Charlotte but I'm not sure.
I believe there may be another Charles QUICK from Exeter that was born about the same time. He and his family were coach builders. This is not the Charles I'm looking for.

Could you please post the census records you have, rather than us having to go hunting for them?

Just copy and paste here. That way we know what they say for his birth details, who was in the household, etc.

To identify his father positively, you're going to have to get his marriage certificate.

Hi Janey, Sorry, I do have a marriage cert. Father to Charles was John Quick (no further details).
Census details I have...
Possible..
1841 census, Chas QUICK living at Summerland Street, St Sidwell, Exeter. Mother Charlotte (1797) siblings William (1821) John (1823) Elizabeth (1828) Charlotte (1829) and Fryar (1831).
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Possible..
1851 census shows a Charles QUICKE as a visitor to the Thornton household at 72, Warwick Street, Saint Georges Hanover Square, Westminster. Also a visitor was a Henry QUICKE aged 25yrs.
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1871 census living at 11, New Street, Marylebone. A painter and decorator by trade.

1881 census living with his wife at 45, Grove Road, St Marylebone.

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1871

Name: Charles Quick
Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Frances Quick
Where born: Exeter

Name: Frances Quick
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Quick
Where born: Teddington, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Registration district: Marylebone

Charles Quick 40
Frances Quick 38


Cross-posted. That's what I meant by details.

Not finding them in 1861 either!

1881

Name: Charles Quick
Age: 57
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Francis Quick
Where born: Exeter

Name: Francis Quick
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Charles Quick
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Marylebone


Frances's details have varied a fair bit, as have Charles's.

Can you give the info you have about her, if you have an actual date and place of birth?


Charles's occupation: 1871 decorator, 1881 painter.

Janey, you now have all the details I currently have. I'm hoping to find someone who my be related and to whom I can communicate with.

Yes, Patrick, that's what many people who post here are hoping to find. Have you calculated the odds of someone related reading your post? Minimal to nil, is the answer.

Have you browsed the board here at all?

I think you are reading the little cave called the Quick "surname board", as many people do when they start, because that's what the management directs them to do. Unfortunately, that way they miss the management's own helpful post, pinned at the top of the Trying to Find board.

Click on Trying to Find, then click on this at the top of it:

"To list the entire trying to find board again **click here**"

You will see where the many unrelated users of this site who offer to help with other users' searches do that. And the helpful post pinned at the top of it.

This is what I'm attempting to do. You got me because it's way past midnight UK time, and I'm in Canada.

You said:

"I have details of his wife (Frances COOKE) "

and I assumed that meant you had her birthdate and place of birth.

I asked because the info in the 1871 and 1881 censuses about the two people is so wildly different for their ages: 57 and 56 in 1881, 40 and 38 in 1871. We expect to see variation from census to census, but that's rather a lot.

Janey,
Frances details are as follows..
Born C 1827 although several various dates. In Teddington, Surrey. Died 28 Jun 1894 Marylebone, London.

1841 census possibily living at Heathen Street, Kingston, Surrey under the name Fanny.
1871 census living at 11, New Street, Marylebone.
1881 census living with husband Charles at 45, Grove Road, St Marylebone.
1891 census she is a widow living at 43, Grove Road, St Marylebone.

Her father was Richard William Cooke.

Are you in contact with the person who has corrected the name of Chas Quick to Charles Quick in 1841 at Ancestry?

Name: Chas Quick
[Charles Quick]
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Where born: Devon, England

Civil parish: St Sidwell
Hundred: Exeter City
County/Island: Devon

Charlott Quick 44
Wm Quick 20
John Quick 18
Chas Quick 17
Elizth Quick 13
Charlotte Quick 12
Fryar Quick 10 - corrected to Fryer
Wm Renot 20
Edward Harris 20
Wm Fothergill 25

Thanks for your help and advice, bye from Australia.

Sorry Janey, our messages are crossing. No I haven't been in touch with Ancestry. I don't have a subscription. I use Find my past. I'll pop into the local library and search Ancestry. Thanks.

"1851 census shows a Charles QUICKE as a visitor to the Thornton household at 72, Warwick Street, Saint Georges Hanover Square, Westminster. Also a visitor was a Henry QUICKE aged 25yrs."

And his occupation is decorator. I looked at the image!
Henry is a tailor, born ... St ? Devon.

He seems a reasonable hypothesis -- but note there is no Henry in the 1841 household.

For info, the head of household is

Name: Arne Thornton -- Anne, obviously
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1812
Relation: Wife
Gender: Female
Where born: Thelbridge, Devon, England


There are loads of Henry Quick-s in Devon in 1841 aged about 15 who are detached from families, but none in Exeter unfortunately.

Patrick -- for Ancestry, just take out a free 14-day trial subscription and go all around the censuses and add corrections or variations to all your names.

And include an email address (anonymous online permanent like at Gmail) so anyone who does the same search in future can find you.

For instance, you can add Frances's birth surname to her records after her marriage. And of course contact the person who made those corrections to the 1841.

Oh, I see, you can do that for free at the library, good idea.

Patrick ...............

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1205029

Been wasting my time a bit here.

And presumably you still don't know whether this couple is who you are looking for??

Maybe you could explain *why* you are looking for Eveline Frances Amelia Lezer QUICK, what your connection is with her, as this can also help in searching for information.

Eveline Frances Amelia Lezer QUICK was the illegitimate daughter of Frances Cooke. She was born Evelyn Smith Cooke but I've learnt she took on the name Quick since my last post.
Sorry you think I've wasted your time. I thought you would be willing to help me. I'll look elsewhere.

The father of the children in the 1841 household with mother Charlotte was William Quick.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html

search for:

surname QUICK
mother's given name CHARLOTTE
all events
dates 1810 to 1840
Devonshire, England, United Kingdon

It gives the baptisms of

William Robert Quick 1821
Elizabeth Fryer Quick 1827
Charles Quick 1824
John Fryer Quick 1822
Robert Glendenning Quick 1830
Charlotte Sophia Quick 1829
Henry Bayly Quick 1826
Fryer Glendenning Quick 1832

So the Charles and Henry in London in 1851 are likely those brothers.

However, the father's name doesn't match with what's on the marriage certificate you have. It's possible Charles simply didn't know his father's name.


At this point, however, it would be nice to know there's an actual reason for hunting for this Charles Quick -- that it isn't just speculated connection with the birth you were enquiring about.

Patrick, it really isn't skin off anyone else's nose if you choose to look elsewhere.

What is annoying to other people is when people don't give the information they clearly have, so other members trying to help have to go looking for it all over again, and when people start multiple threads about the same thing.

Just for future ref:


Frances details are as follows..
Born C 1827 although several various dates. In Teddington, Surrey. Died 28 Jun 1894 Marylebone, London.

1841 census possibily living at Heathen Street, Kingston, Surrey under the name Fanny.
1871 census living at 11, New Street, Marylebone.
1881 census living with husband Charles at 45, Grove Road, St Marylebone.
1891 census she is a widow living at 43, Grove Road, St Marylebone.

Her father was Richard William Cooke.



What I was looking for was *her birth details* in the census records you had, not directions to where I could go and find them for myself!

Name: Eveline Frances Amelia Lezer Quick
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Feb 1864
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT ANNE SOHO,WESTMINSTER,LONDON,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 04 Mar 1855
Father's Name: Charles Henry Quick
Mother's Name: Frances
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06236-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 918608
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975


In the IGI in batch number C062362. Lezer being a misreading of Leger, e.g.?


Any chance she went by Ann?

1871

Name: Ann Queck
[Ann Quick]
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Servant
Where born: Sohs, Middlesex, England
[Soho, Middlesex, England]

Civil parish: Clapham
County/Island: Surrey
Registration district: Wandsworth


Surely you see that knowing there was a child born 1854 is rather significant in searching for Charles and Frances in 1861, since one can search for a child with those parents as an alternative approach ...


The person who made those corrections can also be contacted through Ancestry.

you should not have more than one posting on the same family Patrick - this is clearly stated in GR rules - there is also a posting at the head of this board explaining how to post, plus a long running thread by Ginny pleading with people not to post more than once on the same family