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Hi Gael,
I went off to do some hoovering..........I feel guilty if I sit at the computor to long ! That birth record you found for Elizabeth looks very promising. And as the name William crops up again it could be just what I'm looking for. The baptismal place is Landport which would be about right. I can view an original copy of the bap. cert. at our local records office. I will look at the other William Clark families at Andover just to check them out.
Pam

Two possible births for William with a father as William. Might give you a lead

Name: William Clark
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 03 Apr 1803
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Mary's, Portsea, Hampshire, England
Birth Date: 02 Jan 1803
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Clark
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Clark
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02250-7
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1596292
Reference Number: yr 1803 p 6
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: William Clark
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 24 Jul 1800
Baptism/Christening Place: HIGH STREET-INDEPENDENT,GOSPORT,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1800
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Clark
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elisabeth
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06936-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 595453
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Census 1841

Clarke William 1806 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall View
Clarke Mary 1811 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall View
Clarke Agnes 1834 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall View
Clarke Alfred 1835 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall View
Clarke George 1836 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall View
Clarke Arthur 1841 Hampshire Andover, Ludgershall

And her family in 1851 Census. I collected these from the free GR records.

Need to be checked

Clark William 1802 Basing Andover, Andover View
Clark Mary 1808 Baughurst Andover, Andover View
Clark Agnes 1834 Amport Andover, Andover View
Clark Alfred 1835 Amport Andover, Andover View
Clark George 1836 Amport Andover, Andover View
Clark Arthar 1841 Amport Andover, Andover View
Clark Elizabeth 1843 Amport Andover, Andover View
Clark Sophia 1844 Amport Andover, Andover

Hi Pamela,

Sorry, was away for my tea.

Here's what I found. Could this be Elizabeth age 19 ?

Name: Elizabeth Anne Clarke
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 28 Nov 1842
Baptism/Christening Place: AMPORT,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Clarke
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Anne
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: K13652-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1041196
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Looked on igi to check that out and it's John and Elizabeth Clarke had john William Clarke..........but that may be a good lead. Maybe that is parents.
What I have been looking at is the 1861 census; John and Susannah were living in Hope Street with Elizabeth 19 recorded as a niece, who's name is Clark. But that's a dead-end so far. I was hoping to find her birth record that would give her fathers name and a brother of John's, maybe!

There's a John William Clarke born to William and Elizabeth in 1825 in Portsea.

To Gael,
I don't know when he joined the navy. Most of my problems are to do with having no concrete records about him before his first marriage in 1861 to Susannah. I have a copy of their original marriage cert. I have a copy of his marriage cert. in 1880 when he married my gr gran I have copies of the 1861 1871 8181 census, but nothing about him before these dates. I sometime wonder if he sailed into Portsmouth married Susannah and settled down. He was 30 then and I wonder if he had a family somewhere else.

That's John with his second wife Martha, my gr gran. Thomas William is still at home with them. My old gr grand lost no time in getting married again and my grandad was his last child.

Could John have married a few times ???

When did he join the Navy ?

Who is this family of Clark in Census 1881 ???

Father's middle name starts with 'S' and Thomas
'W.A' [William Alison??]

John S. CLARKE Head M Male 55 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Dealer In Fish
Martha A. CLARKE Wife M Female 20 Malta
John H. CLARKE Son Male 15 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Grocers Errand Boy
Alfred W. CLARKE Son Male 14 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England House Boy (Gents Family) (Dom)
Henry A. CLARKE Son Male 12 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Thomas W.A. CLARKE Son Male 9 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar
Jesse L.M. CLARKE Daur Female 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar
Fanney C.B. CLARKE Daur Female 4 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 57 North St
Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341281
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1147 / 102
Page Number 3

Gael down under
That's very interesting about the name Soreb being Danish. John Soreb Clark was in the navy and I have sometime's wondered if he added the name to himself just to be different from other John Clarks. I thought it might be his mothers maiden name.
I have found a William and Elizabeth who had a son Alfred GRAYSON Clark in 1830 . Taking into account dates, this could be John's brother. If there was a family trait for giving boys unusual names it might be why Thomas William was also called Alison. But as I have said I have hit a brick wall with no defining records to get back to the prevous generation.
Regards,
Pam from Portsmouth England

There must have been a Soreb somewhere in your family and that name seems to have originated from Denmark

Hi Pamela,

The only Johns I can find born in Portsea with William as father were ranging from 1820 to 1823

To Gael down under,
Thanks for the info about Thomas's children. I wondered why I was not able to find him after the 1881 census. He must have joined the army. I will check out the name of his mum . I can look in the local records in Portsmouth.
Thanks,
Pam
PS the name William appears in two of John Soreb's childrens names so my guess is that William was his father.

This Thomas has mother as Ellen not Susannah???

Name: Thomas William Allison Clark
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1872
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Clark
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ellen
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06261-6
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 919743
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Name: Annie Hettie Clarke
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Nov 1904
Baptism/Christening Place: Mhow, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1904
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas William Clarke
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75038-9
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527525
Reference Number:
Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

Name: Andrew Ernest Thomas Clarke
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Oct 1903
Baptism/Christening Place: Mhow, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1903
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas William Alison Clarke
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75038-5
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527521
Reference Number:
Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948

Sorry Sylia Canda
Misread your info in my haste...........yes.I have this infro on Jonh's death...my grandfather was 3 when he died.
Thanks,
Pam

To Sylvialn Canada
Many thanks for your info on John Soreb's birth details. Have been looking for these. Now it's confirmed he was born in Portsmouth I can go through the local records to confirm farther. There was family talk that he came from Ireland. I live in Portsmouth UK.
Thanks again.
Pam
PS not my tree on ancestry and I'm too mean to pay their prices Ha ha ha thanks.