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Hi All,
I think I may have tried this one before but here goes again. I've hit a brick wall with my gr grandfather John Soreb Clark. The first confirmed record I have for him is 1861 when he married his first wife, Susannah Alcock. He does not appear to know who his father is on the marriage cert. 1880 he married my gr gran and gives his father as William, a seaman. Does anyone out there have this man on their tree? He was in the navy and gave his birth place as Portsea Portsmouth.
Regards,
Pam

Any relative to your g grandfather ??

Groom's Name: Thomas William Alison Clarke
Groom's Birth Date: 1872
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 30
Bride's Name: Mary Jane Ryan
Bride's Birth Date: 1880
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 01 Oct 1902
Marriage Place: Mussoorie, Bengal, India
Groom's Father's Name: John Soreb Clarke
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Andrew Ryan
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M75037-3
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527510
Reference Number: 0527510
Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948

There is a Private Family Tree on ancestry with this name in it

born 1826, Portsmouth

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sylvia

I presume you have this registration of his death

Name: John Soreb Clarke
Estimated birth year: abt 1827
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 63
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 361 (click to see others on page)



sylvia

To Gael from Down under,
Yes .......this is John Soreb Clark/e's son Thomas by his first wife Susannah. I'm so excited to get you connection ! Do you have anymore info about John? And what happen to Thomas? He would be my grandad's half brother!
Regards,
Pam

To Sylvialn Canada
Many thanks for your info on John Soreb's birth details. Have been looking for these. Now it's confirmed he was born in Portsmouth I can go through the local records to confirm farther. There was family talk that he came from Ireland. I live in Portsmouth UK.
Thanks again.
Pam
PS not my tree on ancestry and I'm too mean to pay their prices Ha ha ha thanks.

Sorry Sylia Canda
Misread your info in my haste...........yes.I have this infro on Jonh's death...my grandfather was 3 when he died.
Thanks,
Pam

Name: Andrew Ernest Thomas Clarke
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Oct 1903
Baptism/Christening Place: Mhow, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1903
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas William Alison Clarke
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75038-5
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527521
Reference Number:
Collection: India Marriages, 1792-1948

Name: Annie Hettie Clarke
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Nov 1904
Baptism/Christening Place: Mhow, Bengal, India
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1904
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Thomas William Clarke
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Mary Jane
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C75038-9
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527525
Reference Number:
Collection: India Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947

This Thomas has mother as Ellen not Susannah???

Name: Thomas William Allison Clark
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1872
Baptism/Christening Place: SAINT MARYS,PORTSEA,HAMPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: John Clark
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Ellen
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06261-6
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 919743
Reference Number:
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

To Gael down under,
Thanks for the info about Thomas's children. I wondered why I was not able to find him after the 1881 census. He must have joined the army. I will check out the name of his mum . I can look in the local records in Portsmouth.
Thanks,
Pam
PS the name William appears in two of John Soreb's childrens names so my guess is that William was his father.

Hi Pamela,

The only Johns I can find born in Portsea with William as father were ranging from 1820 to 1823

There must have been a Soreb somewhere in your family and that name seems to have originated from Denmark

Gael down under
That's very interesting about the name Soreb being Danish. John Soreb Clark was in the navy and I have sometime's wondered if he added the name to himself just to be different from other John Clarks. I thought it might be his mothers maiden name.
I have found a William and Elizabeth who had a son Alfred GRAYSON Clark in 1830 . Taking into account dates, this could be John's brother. If there was a family trait for giving boys unusual names it might be why Thomas William was also called Alison. But as I have said I have hit a brick wall with no defining records to get back to the prevous generation.
Regards,
Pam from Portsmouth England

Who is this family of Clark in Census 1881 ???

Father's middle name starts with 'S' and Thomas
'W.A' [William Alison??]

John S. CLARKE Head M Male 55 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Dealer In Fish
Martha A. CLARKE Wife M Female 20 Malta
John H. CLARKE Son Male 15 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Grocers Errand Boy
Alfred W. CLARKE Son Male 14 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England House Boy (Gents Family) (Dom)
Henry A. CLARKE Son Male 12 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Thomas W.A. CLARKE Son Male 9 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar
Jesse L.M. CLARKE Daur Female 6 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar
Fanney C.B. CLARKE Daur Female 4 Portsmouth, Hampshire, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 57 North St
Census Place Portsea, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341281
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1147 / 102
Page Number 3

Could John have married a few times ???

When did he join the Navy ?

That's John with his second wife Martha, my gr gran. Thomas William is still at home with them. My old gr grand lost no time in getting married again and my grandad was his last child.

To Gael,
I don't know when he joined the navy. Most of my problems are to do with having no concrete records about him before his first marriage in 1861 to Susannah. I have a copy of their original marriage cert. I have a copy of his marriage cert. in 1880 when he married my gr gran I have copies of the 1861 1871 8181 census, but nothing about him before these dates. I sometime wonder if he sailed into Portsmouth married Susannah and settled down. He was 30 then and I wonder if he had a family somewhere else.

There's a John William Clarke born to William and Elizabeth in 1825 in Portsea.

Looked on igi to check that out and it's John and Elizabeth Clarke had john William Clarke..........but that may be a good lead. Maybe that is parents.
What I have been looking at is the 1861 census; John and Susannah were living in Hope Street with Elizabeth 19 recorded as a niece, who's name is Clark. But that's a dead-end so far. I was hoping to find her birth record that would give her fathers name and a brother of John's, maybe!